Irritating Bisexual Stereotypes.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Hey everyone list all the bisexual stereotypes that irritate you to no end. I'll go first.

Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.

Bisexual women are attention whores.

Bisexual only kiss girls to please men.

Bisexual women all want threesomes.

Bisexual women are ugly.

Bisexual women are only bisexual is because no man wants them, they can't get a man, or some did them wrong in the past.

That's all I git for right now. Maybe I will think of something later.:)

[csrakate]

Funny you should mention this because if I want to list the stereotypes of bisexual men that irritate me, I would just list your posts about them.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Funny you should mention this because if I want to list the stereotypes of bisexual men that irritate me, I would just list your posts about them.

Go right ahead. I did not post anything negative about bisexual men.

[csrakate]

Go right ahead. I did not post anything negative about bisexual men.

Where do I start?

"Well,sweetheart you cannot deny it. Lately I have notice that most bisexual men will only want a woman for social things,but when it's time to get behind close doors it's all man on man action."

"If you are reading this sweetie, LEAVE BISEXUAL MEN ALONE. LET THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY TRULY LIKE OR WHICH SIDE THEY WANT TO BE ON AND LET THEM STAY THERE.Bisexual men seem to flip flop, and that can be too much for a woman too take seriously"

"Cause apparently most bisexual men find more sexual pleasure from men, rather than women, or they don't find women sexually stimulating at all."

I could list more but I have better things to do with my time than rehash your bias against bisexual men.

[darkeyes]

Where do I start?

"Well,sweetheart you cannot deny it. Lately I have notice that most bisexual men will only want a woman for social things,but when it's time to get behind close doors it's all man on man action."

"If you are reading this sweetie, LEAVE BISEXUAL MEN ALONE. LET THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY TRULY LIKE OR WHICH SIDE THEY WANT TO BE ON AND LET THEM STAY THERE.Bisexual men seem to flip flop, and that can be too much for a woman too take seriously"

"Cause apparently most bisexual men find more sexual pleasure from men, rather than women, or they don't find women sexually stimulating at all."

I could list more but I have better things to do with my time than rehash your bias against bisexual men.
*laffs*... dont meddle wiv Musie... she might bounce me on 'er knee.. but she has sharp teeth wich bite in nasty way peeps who upset 'er...:tongue:

[binjlooking]

Some bi women are attention whores lol. I worked with one a few years ago. Not only was she doing guys in the bathroom at work and bragging about it she was going down on women at parties her crew told me.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Where do I start?

"Well,sweetheart you cannot deny it. Lately I have notice that most bisexual men will only want a woman for social things,but when it's time to get behind close doors it's all man on man action."

"If you are reading this sweetie, LEAVE BISEXUAL MEN ALONE. LET THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY TRULY LIKE OR WHICH SIDE THEY WANT TO BE ON AND LET THEM STAY THERE.Bisexual men seem to flip flop, and that can be too much for a woman too take seriously"

"Cause apparently most bisexual men find more sexual pleasure from men, rather than women, or they don't find women sexually stimulating at all."

I could list more but I have better things to do with my time than rehash your bias against bisexual men.

Only you have a problem with that, not bisexual men.And yes please run your little errands so someone else can give better feedback.

[darkeyes]

Only you have a problem with that, not bisexual men.And yes please run your little errands so someone else can give better feedback. You can be quite snide sweets... not a nice trait.. but think on this.. if bisexual men think as you and have no problem with what you say, then once again the question has to be asked whether or not they are indeed bisexual... now stick that in your pipe and smoke it....

[The Bisexual Virgin]

You can be quite snide sweets... not a nice trait.. but think on this.. if bisexual men think as you and have no problem with what you say, then once again the question has to be asked whether or not they are indeed bisexual... now stick that in your pipe and smoke it....

I know I can be at times,but lately I have been pretty mild.And I just state those things because I see it with my own eyes.

[darkeyes]

I know I can be at times,but lately I have been pretty mild.And I just state those things because I see it with my own eyes.
Then babes... you see wrong.... many bisexual men prefer men.. many women.. many well its pretty much the same.. and for many its fluid... but any man claiming to be bisexual that only wants women as a non-sexual social secretaries and has no sexual attraction to them is not bisexual....

[void()]

Hey everyone list all the bisexual stereotypes that irritate you to no end. I'll go first.

Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.
Bisexual women are attention whores.
Bisexual only kiss girls to please men.
Bisexual women all want threesomes.
Bisexual women are ugly.
Bisexual women are only bisexual is because no man wants them, they can't get a man, or some did them wrong in the past.

That's all I git for right now. Maybe I will think of something later.:)

1. Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.

I would not ever think that, nor say it. First, I do not know all bisexual women. Second, I prefer to know the person rather than gender and orientation.

2. Bisexual women are attention whores.

Some may be, it seems some here continually seek attention. At the same time, refer to my reply to number one.

3. Bisexual only kiss girls to please men.

Some may do so to please men. Again, refer to number one. It really does boil down to individual people and not absolute generalities.

4. Bisexual women all want threesomes.

Gee, not meaning to sound like a broken record but again number one applies.
It also works conversely with bisexual men in the same manner.

5. Bisexual women are ugly.

I will say that people full of hate, no matter their race, creed, nationality, gender, orientation are as ugly as any sin to me. When people oppress others by using absolutes and generalities, it often infers hate is at the root. Again, number applies as well.

6. Bisexual women are only bisexual is because no man wants them, they can't get a man, or some did them wrong in the past.

See number one, yet again. How many times must a person be taught absolutes and generalities do not work in describing, or judging people? How many times must they be taught to not judge?

And yes, I have learned better myself.


Only you have a problem with that, not bisexual men.And yes please run your little errands so someone else can give better feedback.

I think I may have a problem with it too. I'm a bisexual man, did not care much for things you've said. I've explained that well enough. Your ideas and opinions appear lousy to me. You might be a good person. I don't know. You keep seeming to express hate via these ideas of absolutes and generalities, I won't care to know.


I know I can be at times,but lately I have been pretty mild.And I just state those things because I see it with my own eyes.

Seeing does not cause speech. Then again, thinking does not either at times.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Then babes... you see wrong.... many bisexual men prefer men.. many women.. many well its pretty much the same.. and for many its fluid... but any man claiming to be bisexual that only wants women as a non-sexual social secretaries and has no sexual attraction to them is not bisexual....

Umm how am I seeing wrong,when I have two working eyes? I need glasses that for damn sure,but I am pretty sure my eyes won't deceive me. And ditto to the last part. Those men are only bisexual for social reasons, and nothing else.

[DuckiesDarling]

Only you have a problem with that, not bisexual men.And yes please run your little errands so someone else can give better feedback.

nope, others do as well and have commented on it before and will again everytime you pop off with your stereotypes about bisexual men.

[Jobelorocks]

I have to agree with others that you have continuously stereotyped bisexual men and it is a little weird you are complaining about bisexual stereotypes. I think you may be a little naive or have related some bad experiences with all bi men, but bi men are just as diverse as any other group.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

1. Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.

I would not ever think that, nor say it. First, I do not know all bisexual women. Second, I prefer to know the person rather than gender and orientation.

2. Bisexual women are attention whores.

Some may be, it seems some here continually seek attention. At the same time, refer to my reply to number one.

3. Bisexual only kiss girls to please men.

Some may do so to please men. Again, refer to number one. It really does boil down to individual people and not absolute generalities.

4. Bisexual women all want threesomes.

Gee, not meaning to sound like a broken record but again number one applies.
It also works conversely with bisexual men in the same manner.

5. Bisexual women are ugly.

I will say that people full of hate, no matter their race, creed, nationality, gender, orientation are as ugly as any sin to me. When people oppress others by using absolutes and generalities, it often infers hate is at the root. Again, number applies as well.

6. Bisexual women are only bisexual is because no man wants them, they can't get a man, or some did them wrong in the past.

See number one, yet again. How many times must a person be taught absolutes and generalities do not work in describing, or judging people? How many times must they be taught to not judge?

And yes, I have learned better myself.



I think I may have a problem with it too. I'm a bisexual man, did not care much for things you've said. I've explained that well enough. Your ideas and opinions appear lousy to me. You might be a good person. I don't know. You keep seeming to express hate via these ideas of absolutes and generalities, I won't care to know.



Seeing does not cause speech. Then again, thinking does not either at times.

I have yet to see you comment on anything I wrote, or any other man for that matter. And what do you mean by hate? Just because I might have an opinion, does not mean it's hateful? Get real.

I really wish people would stop derailing the thread, and get back on topic. This thread was not about me.

[æonpax]

Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.
Men say that about all women they can't get sex from.

Bisexual women are attention whores.
And guys aren't? (hetero/bi/gay...doesn't matter)

Bisexual only kiss girls to please men.
I've seen this behavior with some high school girls. I have not seen it in adults.

Bisexual women all want threesomes.
Wrong.

Bisexual women are ugly.
Actually, I've experienced quite the opposite opinion from men. Many, who use porn as some sort of guide, envision hot, blond and buxom bisexual women.

Bisexual women are only bisexual is because no man wants them, they can't get a man, or some did them wrong in the past.
I've heard men say this about lesbians but never, a bisexual woman.

[void()]

I have yet to see you comment on anything I wrote, or any other man for that matter. And what do you mean by hate? Just because I might have an opinion, does not mean it's hateful? Get real.

I really wish people would stop derailing the thread, and get back on topic. This thread was not about me.

1. I have yet to see you comment on anything I wrote, or any other man for that matter.

1.A.
I need glasses that for damn sure,but I am pretty sure my eyes won't deceive me.

I guess admitting you need glasses then, explains why you've not seen what I and other bisexual men have posted.

2. And what do you mean by hate?

I mean lacking in compassion, self respect and respect of others, civility.

3. Just because I might have an opinion, does not mean it's hateful?

You asking me? When you end a statement with a question mark it implies a question is asked. I agree, your opinion may not be full of hate. On the other hand, I may take lessons from you and say generally, "all opinions are expressions of hate." Can you see my point yet, or must you really need glasses?

4. Get real.

As opposed to, or in comparison of who, or what? I believe I am as real as real needs to be. Although, at times I do enjoy mild fantasies of global domination using rodents as means of delivering messages of peace to everyone. I do know fantasy from reality. One is still at liberty to dream, hope.

5. I really wish people would stop derailing the thread, and get back on topic.

I thought you were discussing stereotypes of bisexuals that bisexuals found irritating. That's what the thread title suggested. You derailed us by doing what you accuse others of doing, using stereotypes. I responded to that with an opinion of dislike, disappointment. It does no good to complain of a thing then, do the thing you complain of to start out.

6. This thread was not about me.

As far as I am concerned, it still is not. We are having a disagreement of opinion. You say that you cannot perceive how your opinion can be perceived as hate. Let me be a bit rough here.

"I would have only shot one specific black man instead of ten but they all look alike and no one cares anyway."

I have not shot any black man in truth. And I can in fact tell differences between people of color. I wrote the above quoted to illustrate a point to you, that is all. It is rather unkind at best to lump everyone in a handy group and then say they're inferior. This is what your opinion, expression of it does.

I disagree with that. An opinion or thought is an idea. I am free to disagree with ideas here. I am not attacking you personally, it's your ideas I dislike. And to claim we've gone off topic whilst claiming martyrdom is really a pointless tactic. No one else here thinks I have done what you suggest. If they do they can say.

[void()]

Bisexual women are nothing but sluts.
Men say that about all women they can't get sex from.


LMFCAO! (Laughing My Foolish Cute Ass Off)

Yes indeed, my wife is a slut for not having sex with anyone for a year now. *chuckles* It couldn't be because the hopped up birth control medicine she takes to avoid severe 'vacations' destroys her libido fully. No way. I expect her to give me sex twenty times a day, and another twenty at night no matter what she feels or how ill or incapable she may be. ;) If she doesn't, you're correct, she's a damn slut.

And yes, I know, they are by no means 'vacations'. That's just simply a euphemism we use here for polite discussion. In case it was missed, a good portion of the above paragraph was pure sarcasm.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

1. I have yet to see you comment on anything I wrote, or any other man for that matter.

1.A.

I guess admitting you need glasses then, explains why you've not seen what I and other bisexual men have posted.

2. And what do you mean by hate?

I mean lacking in compassion, self respect and respect of others, civility.

3. Just because I might have an opinion, does not mean it's hateful?

You asking me? When you end a statement with a question mark it implies a question is asked. I agree, your opinion may not be full of hate. On the other hand, I may take lessons from you and say generally, "all opinions are expressions of hate." Can you see my point yet, or must you really need glasses?

4. Get real.

As opposed to, or in comparison of who, or what? I believe I am as real as real needs to be. Although, at times I do enjoy mild fantasies of global domination using rodents as means of delivering messages of peace to everyone. I do know fantasy from reality. One is still at liberty to dream, hope.

5. I really wish people would stop derailing the thread, and get back on topic.

I thought you were discussing stereotypes of bisexuals that bisexuals found irritating. That's what the thread title suggested. You derailed us by doing what you accuse others of doing, using stereotypes. I responded to that with an opinion of dislike, disappointment. It does no good to complain of a thing then, do the thing you complain of to start out.

6. This thread was not about me.

As far as I am concerned, it still is not. We are having a disagreement of opinion. You say that you cannot perceive how your opinion can be perceived as hate. Let me be a bit rough here.

"I would have only shot one specific black man instead of ten but they all look alike and no one cares anyway."

I have not shot any black man in truth. And I can in fact tell differences between people of color. I wrote the above quoted to illustrate a point to you, that is all. It is rather unkind at best to lump everyone in a handy group and then say they're inferior. This is what your opinion, expression of it does.

I disagree with that. An opinion or thought is an idea. I am free to disagree with ideas here. I am not attacking you personally, it's your ideas I dislike. And to claim we've gone off topic whilst claiming martyrdom is really a pointless tactic. No one else here thinks I have done what you suggest. If they do they can say.

Dude I rarely get mad over the internet but you trying compare skin color to, whoever the hell some bisexual man fucks is grating on my nerves. The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences. My eyes work just fine. In fact they work so fine that all I see is men looking for hookups with other men, bisexual me looking for cocks to suck,bisexual men cheating on their wives with other men,bisexual men leaving their wives to be with other men, and bisexual men doing whatever the hell else with other men.And it's not just here it's everywhere, so you trying to deny what I said will not work.

And I have not once spewed any hate. People like you are so fucking quick to call someone hateful just because you do not agree with someone.

[ExSailor]

Perhaps the worst myth/stereotype about bisexual men is that we are mainly all HIV+ and spread HIV to others, and there's a homophobic, biphobic, and pozphobic posters here who will claim that safer sex does not work at preventing HIV infection and transmission, and that if you have sex with heterosexual men you will be fine since they're somehow magically not HIV+. :rolleyes:
While this statement may be controversial, I find myself justifiably shying away from any bisexual male when it comes to sex. The risks of getting STD/HIV is just too great.

[tenni]

"Bisexual women are attention whores."

My Pug is an attention whore. I didn't know that she was bisexual.

Ah no wonder she likes her German Shepherds big regardless of their gender... ;)

"The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences."

Stop posting anti bimale bigotry then...or as you prefer stereotypes. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it must be a duck regardless of its colour.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

"Bisexual women are attention whores."

My Pug is an attention whore. I didn't know that she was bisexual.

Ah no wonder she likes her German Shepherds big regardless of their gender... ;)

"The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences."

Stop posting anti bimale bigotry then...or as you prefer stereotypes. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...it must be a duck regardless of its colour.

Tenni, are you that fucking dense?If I had posted any bigotry it cannot be compared to the bigotry towards blacks. You want to know why? Because nobody would have guess a gay man is man unless he tells it. A black person cannot hide being black. Too compare the two is extremely ridiculous.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

"If you are reading this sweetie, LEAVE BISEXUAL MEN ALONE. LET THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY TRULY LIKE OR WHICH SIDE THEY WANT TO BE ON AND LET THEM STAY THERE.Bisexual men seem to flip flop, and that can be too much for a woman too take seriously"
~*~*

And that particular woman should leave bisexual men alone, if she keeps running into bisexual men that don't care about her feelings, or they don't know what they want in life.

[Jobelorocks]

Dude I rarely get mad over the internet but you trying compare skin color to, whoever the hell some bisexual man fucks is grating on my nerves. The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences. My eyes work just fine. In fact they work so fine that all I see is men looking for hookups with other men, bisexual me looking for cocks to suck,bisexual men cheating on their wives with other men,bisexual men leaving their wives to be with other men, and bisexual men doing whatever the hell else with other men.And it's not just here it's everywhere, so you trying to deny what I said will not work.

And I have not once spewed any hate. People like you are so fucking quick to call someone hateful just because you do not agree with someone.
This is precisely what people are talking about. You are stereotyping. There are bad apples in every bunch, but they aren't all that way. I have seen bisexual men who behave this way, but I have also seen plenty that are not that way at all. Just like you don't like stereotypes being made about you that you listed above, bisexual men don't like to be stereotyped or demonized because what some other bisexual men have done. It is very irritating to be stereotyped. I am a bisexual woman and I can see this.

[darkeyes]

*laffs* Very aptly named our OP... and with every post, ever more aptly...:tongue:

[tenni]

Tenni, are you that fucking dense?If I had posted any bigotry it cannot be compared to the bigotry towards blacks. You want to know why? Because nobody would have guess a gay man is man unless he tells it. A black person cannot hide being black. Too compare the two is extremely ridiculous.


Yes, I agree that in your mind it is ridiculous to compare bigotry based on race and bigotry based on gender or sexuality, or bigotry based age, bigotry based on religion or biotry based on mentally or phsyically challenged people. I do see your point about visible minorities having more difficulty than some one who may "pass" for mainstream.

However, in my country it is not like that. We acknowledge that bigotry is all the same and all people should have equal protection under the law. That is why we have same sex marriage (not civil unions) and the US is still struggling. Discrimination is not worse for Blacks than for Sikhs or Muslims or bi men or blind women etc. It may feel worse if you are the discriminated minority. Don't tell me that Blacks experienced more bigotry that Muslims or Sihks in your country in the past ten years. It just feels that way to you but not the dead Sihks who were murdered in their holy place.

That is why some people find your postings on bimen such a pecular bigoted position for a black bisexual woman.

A wise black woman once corrected someone in my presence with these word to respond to the term "reverse discrimination". There is no reverse discrimination. There is only discrimination.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

[QUOTE=Jobelorocks;236080]This is precisely what people are talking about. You are stereotyping. There are bad apples in every bunch, but they aren't all that way. I have seen bisexual men who behave this way, but I have also seen plenty that are not that way at all. Just like you don't like stereotypes being made about you that you listed above, bisexual men don't like to be stereotyped or demonized because what some other bisexual men have done. It is very irritating to be stereotyped. I am a bisexual woman and I can see this.[/QUOTE

I am going to assume that everyone that answered is white, and if so I wish that one day they would ask god to wake them in black skin, and spend a few hours in Jasper Alabama. For you people to compare being black to bisexual is really ridiculous. Me as a bisexual can be hidden, but I cannot hide my skin color.or the fact that I am a woman. So in other words I am a black woman first, and bisexual dead last.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Yes, I agree that in your mind it is ridiculous to compare bigotry based on race and bigotry based on gender or sexuality, or bigotry based age, bigotry based on religion or biotry based on mentally or phsyically challenged people. I do see your point about visible minorities having more difficulty than some one who may "pass" for mainstream.

However, in my country it is not like that. We acknowledge that bigotry is all the same and all people should have equal protection under the law. That is why we have same sex marriage (not civil unions) and the US is still struggling. Discrimination is not worse for Blacks than for Sikhs or Muslims or bi men or blind women etc. It may feel worse if you are the discriminated minority. Don't tell me that Blacks experienced more bigotry that Muslims or Sihks in your country in the past ten years. It just feels that way to you but not the dead Sihks who were murdered in their holy place.

That is why some people find your postings on bimen such a pecular bigoted position for a black bisexual woman.

A wise black woman once corrected someone in my presence with these word to respond to the term "reverse discrimination". There is no reverse discrimination. There is only discrimination.

That's how it works in YOUR country, not mine. All bigotry is not the same, I don't care how you put it. Bigotry against gay/bi can be easily prevented if they don't showcase who they are, the same cannot be said for black people. I can go on and on how much more blacks have suffered at the hands of others just because they BORN black but that will only fall on deaf ears because you will never ever understand to be born the way are and cannot hide it.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Perhaps the worst myth/stereotype about bisexual men is that we are mainly all HIV+ and spread HIV to others, and there's a homophobic, biphobic, and pozphobic posters here who will claim that safer sex does not work at preventing HIV infection and transmission, and that if you have sex with heterosexual men you will be fine since they're somehow magically not HIV+. :rolleyes:

Thank you. It seems like you are the only one with some sense in this thread. Everyone else seem to not understand what the hell is gong on. Again, thank you for your feedback.;)

[tenni]

You are entitled to your opinion as a Black bisexual woman living in the south USA. If you are posting about stereotypes that you dislike be more sensitive that your opinion about bi men is seen by many as a bigoted stereotype.

Contrary to your opinion, I have just told you that Canadians see all bigotry as equally wrong. It is in our constitution. In your mind you are right and Canada is wrong.

[Jobelorocks]

[QUOTE=Jobelorocks;236080]This is precisely what people are talking about. You are stereotyping. There are bad apples in every bunch, but they aren't all that way. I have seen bisexual men who behave this way, but I have also seen plenty that are not that way at all. Just like you don't like stereotypes being made about you that you listed above, bisexual men don't like to be stereotyped or demonized because what some other bisexual men have done. It is very irritating to be stereotyped. I am a bisexual woman and I can see this.[/QUOTE

I am going to assume that everyone that answered is white, and if so I wish that one day they would ask god to wake them in black skin, and spend a few hours in Jasper Alabama. For you people to compare being black to bisexual is really ridiculous. Me as a bisexual can be hidden, but I cannot hide my skin color.or the fact that I am a woman. So in other words I am a black woman first, and bisexual dead last.

Man, you have some issues. Heck, I know that racism is still around and I know it is bad and I know you can't hide your skin color like bisexuality. Duh. Just because there are worse cases of stereotyping that you may have faced, does not give you the right to stereotype others. Period. Stop using excuses and realize that you cannot complain about people stereotyping bisexuals when you do this to bisexual men all the time. Stop being hypocritical.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

[QUOTE=The Bisexual Virgin;236084]

Man, you have some issues. Heck, I know that racism is still around and I know it is bad and I know you can't hide your skin color like bisexuality. Duh. Just because there are worse cases of stereotyping that you may have faced, does not give you the right to stereotype others. Period. Stop using excuses and realize that you cannot complain about people stereotyping bisexuals when you do this to bisexual men all the time. Stop being hypocritical.

I am not using excuses it was clearly stated as plain as day that I a bigot, and I no problem with that,because I know otherwise. Please take your white privilege somewhere else

[Jobelorocks]

[QUOTE=Jobelorocks;236094]

I am not using excuses it was clearly stated as plain as day that I a bigot, and I no problem with that,because I know otherwise. Please take your white privilege somewhere else
I never called you a bigot, check the posts. (but you know, if one of us "white priveleged" people say something, we are all guilty of it.) I said you stereotyped which is true. Wow, take my "white privilege" somewhere else? I never even knew you were black until this thread! I don't give a fuck what your race is. There is no excuse for negatively stereotyping a group of people. You seem to be preoccupied with race, not me. You keep on bringing it up. Why are you bringing race into this? What does my race or your race matter? It does not excuse any of our actions or give us a right to negatively stereotype others. Everyone should be held to the standard of not creating false stereotypes of whatever group, no matter what race, religion, sexuality, age, or whatever.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Way to be a hypocritical bigot towards bisexual men. You're probably not even really bisexual either, and you did write about how you had sex with a woman but didn't like it or her at all so you're NOT a virgin. I find bigoted biphobic bisexual and hetero women too much to take seriously. ;)

Dude, you really need to be quiet. You are the main one that said bisexual men prefer other men sexually and romantically, so you cannot say shit to me unless you are agreeing with me like you did last time.

[æonpax]

Way to be a hypocritical bigot towards bisexual men. You're probably not even really bisexual either, and you did write about how you had sex with a woman but didn't like it or her at all so you're NOT a virgin. I find bigoted biphobic bisexual and hetero women too much to take seriously. ;)

Hey Whinestone, before you start crying a river how persecuted you feel, did you ever consider it's not becuase you are bisexual, but you have zero personality and the acumen of a rock. Grow up.

[void()]

Dude I rarely get mad over the internet but you trying compare skin color to, whoever the hell some bisexual man fucks is grating on my nerves. The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences. My eyes work just fine. In fact they work so fine that all I see is men looking for hookups with other men, bisexual me looking for cocks to suck,bisexual men cheating on their wives with other men,bisexual men leaving their wives to be with other men, and bisexual men doing whatever the hell else with other men.And it's not just here it's everywhere, so you trying to deny what I said will not work.

And I have not once spewed any hate. People like you are so fucking quick to call someone hateful just because you do not agree with someone.

Bigotry is bigotry. I am not denying that some bisexual men do the things you say. But you cannot say all bisexual men do those things. Which is what you've been doing.

[Jobelorocks]

Bigotry is bigotry. I am not denying that some bisexual men do the things you say. But you cannot say all bisexual men do those things. Which is what you've been doing.
I second this.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Bigotry is bigotry. I am not denying that some bisexual men do the things you say. But you cannot say all bisexual men do those things. Which is what you've
been doing.

Void, are you black?If you are not, then you really don't know what bigotry is. And in case you have not notice most gay white men are racists

[Jobelorocks]

Void, are you black?If you are not, then you really don't know what bigotry is. And in case you have not notice most gay white men are racists
And again stereotyping white gay men. Stop with the negative stereotypes. Can't complain about people stereotyping and then turn right around and stereotype yourself. You are proving our point that you are the one doing the stereotyping over and over.

[darkeyes]

Void, are you black?If you are not, then you really don't know what bigotry is. And in case you have not notice most gay white men are racistsThat is an appalling slur and simply not true..there are racists in every walk of life and the gay community male or female has its share... most I know are anything but ad many have themselves actively fought racism all of their lives often at great risk to themselves... your post is a broad nd ignorant statement for which u should be bloody well ashamed... how dare you tell anyone they don't know what bigotry is... gay, bisexual and transgendered people on this site and in the wider world I think know at least as much as you about that...

[Jobelorocks]

That is an appalling slur and simply not true..there are racists in every walk of life and the gay community male or female has its share... most I know are anything but ad many have themselves actively fought racism all of their lives often at great risk to themselves... your post is a broad nd ignorant statement for which u should be bloody well ashamed... how dare you tell anyone they don't know what bigotry is... gay, bisexual and transgendered people on this site and in the wider world I think know at least as much as you about that...
Amen, sister.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

And again stereotyping white gay men. Stop with the negative stereotypes. Can't complain about people stereotyping and then turn right around and stereotype yourself. You are proving our point that you are the one doing the stereotyping over and over.

Gay white men are not stereotyped as racists, that's reserved for the straight ones. I am saying from experience Gay white men are white first, and gay second.And I have not once complained about stereotypes. I complain about people especially white people should not compare being black to sexual preferences.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

That is an appalling slur and simply not true..there are racists in every walk of life and the gay community male or female has its share... most I know are anything but ad many have themselves actively fought racism all of their lives often at great risk to themselves... your post is a broad nd ignorant statement for which u should be bloody well ashamed... how dare you tell anyone they don't know what bigotry is... gay, bisexual and transgendered people on this site and in the wider world I think know at least as much as you about that...

I am not ashamed of anything.Sorry I am not.Talking to everyone here is like talking to a brick wall. You guys will never understand what a colored person has go through. All those people you mention can always pass for being straight.Again I am sorry, but with you being a white woman I would suspect you would never understand what I am talking about.

[Jobelorocks]

Gay white men are not stereotyped as racists, that's reserved for the straight ones. I am saying from experience Gay white men are white first, and gay second.And I have not once complained about stereotypes. I complain about people especially white people should not compare being black to sexual preferences.
You are creating a stereotype in your own mind. Now it sounds like you are saying all white people are racist, which is also very very untrue. The whole point of this thread was complaining about stereotypes about bisexuals that irritate you. So ya, you are complaining. Don't tell me people don't get stereotyped and face bigotry for their sexuality. Check these out http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/13/nation/la-na-lgbt-hate-crimes-20110713
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/nyregion/09bias.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/02/anti-gay-hate-crimes-murders-national-coalition-of-anti-violence-programs_n_1564885.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-man-charged-with-hate-crime-against-lesbian/2011/08/11/gIQAPUVg9I_story.html
This is just a few pretty reputable new sources that shows that people are indeed facing bigotry due to their sexual identity. I never compared the two types of bigotry/prejudice of racism and prejudice based on sexual orientation. I just said that stereotyping a group of people due to their race, religion, sex, sexual orientation, age, ect. is wrong. I don't think you can argue with that. (even though you are perpetuating and creating negative stereotypes).

Some forms of prejudice are more severe than others, but prejudice is prejudice.

[Jobelorocks]

I am not ashamed of anything.Sorry I am not.Talking to everyone here is like talking to a brick wall. You guys will never understand what a colored person has go through. All those people you mention can always pass for being straight.Again I am sorry, but with you being a white woman I would suspect you would never understand what I am talking about.
Uh, darkeyes is not straight, she is a lesbian.

[Vuillardgr]

Wow, this thread has gone completely off topic. I think we can all agree that the stereotypes need to be dropped and in some way, we will all be part of a minority in some point of our lives.

As I stated in another post, there is no excuse for any bigotry. I believe what Bi Virgin is trying to convey is that sexual and racial bigotry are two different things. Does one trump the other? Not at all. but in certain instances, a non white person, who can't hide their skin color will have a more difficult time in certain circumstances than someone who is gay or bi. Most of the time, you can't tell a person's sexuality just by looking at them. Being a black woman, it's true. I've experienced it. No matter how educated, attractive, engaging we may be, there are some out there who will think the worst of me because of our color and at times gender. Black women catch some serious hell. We have to work harder than most just to prove that we can do positive things and become a driving force in society. A gay/ bi person will run into most of the same problems but only if they are open about their sexuality. I have no choice but to be open about my skin color because I wear it every day.

That being said, Bi Virgin, it's interesting reading your posts. I enjoy exchanging ideas with you, but some friendly advice.... you may want to ease up on the accusations of racial bigotry and accusing people of "white privilege". If people are on this site, they are fairly open minded. I doubt many of them are racists against blacks. Will they know what it's like to be us? No, not at all. Just try to convey your thoughts in a way that will allow people to see it from your point of view without attacking them.

Let's all try and start threads and remain on topic.... if someone tries to go "off road", just remain on subject. I'm looking to exchange points of view and banter...not barbs.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Uh, darkeyes is not straight, she is a lesbian.

I know she's a lesbian.What does that have anything to do with her skin color?

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Wow, this thread has gone completely off topic. I think we can all agree that the stereotypes need to be dropped and in some way, we will all be part of a minority in some point of our lives.

As I stated in another post, there is no excuse for any bigotry. I believe what Bi Virgin is trying to convey is that sexual and racial bigotry are two different things. Does one trump the other? Not at all. but in certain instances, a non white person, who can't hide their skin color will have a more difficult time in certain circumstances than someone who is gay or bi. Most of the time, you can't tell a person's sexuality just by looking at them. Being a black woman, it's true. I've experienced it. No matter how educated, attractive, engaging we may be, there are some out there who will think the worst of me because of our color and at times gender. Black women catch some serious hell. We have to work harder than most just to prove that we can do positive things and become a driving force in society. A gay/ bi person will run into most of the same problems but only if they are open about their sexuality. I have no choice but to be open about my skin color because I wear it every day.

That being said, Bi Virgin, it's interesting reading your posts. I enjoy exchanging ideas with you, but some friendly advice.... you may want to ease up on the accusations of racial bigotry and accusing people of "white privilege". If people are on this site, they are fairly open minded. I doubt many of them are racists against blacks. Will they know what it's like to be us? No, not at all. Just try to convey your thoughts in a way that will allow people to see it from your point of view without attacking them.

Let's all try and start threads and remain on topic.... if someone tries to go "off road", just remain on subject. I'm looking to exchange points of view and banter...not barbs.

Thanks for understanding where I am coming from. And I know most people on this are very sweet and open minded, and I hate to become a raging bitch,because some bisexual decided to bring race into this discussion.Void_dweller could have used anything besides race. That what's really got me upset. And I seriously hope this thread will get back on track, and all the people that have a problem with what I say needs to step out, so others can put in their two cents. And remember ladies and gentlemen, all this mess started because some lady was holding a grudge against me.

[Jobelorocks]

Thanks for understanding where I am coming from. And I know most people on this are very sweet and open minded, and I hate to become a raging bitch,because some bisexual decided to bring race into this discussion.Void_dweller could have used anything besides race. That what's really got me upset. And I seriously hope this thread will get back on track, and all the people that have a problem with what I say needs to step out, so others can put in their two cents. And remember ladies and gentlemen, all this mess started because some lady was holding a grudge against me.
So now since another person brought race into the matter, then you are going to treat the rest of us like we did it because we are white? Why do you repeatedly make race an issue with people who didn't make the comment Void did? How is this fair? Honestly, I don't think anyone who has seen your past posts will take you seriously because we have seen you repeatedly stereotype bi men and throughout this thread stereotype other groups as well. Prejudice is a bad thing and should not be tolerated.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

So now since another person brought race into the matter, then you are going to treat the rest of us like we did it because we are white? Why do you repeatedly make race an issue with people who didn't make the comment Void did? How is this fair? Honestly, I don't think anyone who has seen your past posts will take you seriously because we have seen you repeatedly stereotype bi men and throughout this thread stereotype other groups as well. Prejudice is a bad thing and should not be tolerated.

I have only spoke of bisexual men, and no one else. And I only brought race up, because one poster decided to bring race into the equation, and decided to compare it to something else. If Void_Dweller would have left race or black people alone, I would have not said anything. And not only that people co-sign with him.Please do not put words into my mouth, I know what I said.

[Jobelorocks]

I have only spoke of bisexual men, and no one else. And I only brought race up, because one poster decided to bring race into the equation, and decided to compare it to something else. If Void_Dweller would have left race or black people alone, I would have not said anything. And not only that people co-sign with him.Please do not put words into my mouth, I know what I said.
You also talked about white gay men saying that most of them are racist. Also you referred to my "white privelege" when I was not the one who brought race into this, so therefore making me pay for what someone else said. I didn't even comment on your statement about race, I left race out of it when you talked about my "white privelege" . So who is putting words in who's mouth? You keep on bringing up race with people who were leaving race out of the matter.

[DuckiesDarling]

Hey, Bisexual Virgin, let me pretty blunt here, i don't care if you are black, white, purple or plaid that's not the problem I have with your posts, the problem I have is you appear to be a clueless bitch who rants about bi males not able to really love women or not be faithful to partners. It's not our fault or the men we know and loves fault that you can't seem to find anyone to be happy with, but you have no reason to come on a site for bisexuals and slam the males with your generalities.

[Jobelorocks]

Hey, Bisexual Virgin, let me pretty blunt here, i don't care if you are black, white, purple or plaid that's not the problem I have with your posts, the problem I have is you appear to be a clueless bitch who rants about bi males not able to really love women or not be faithful to partners. It's not our fault or the men we know and loves fault that you can't seem to find anyone to be happy with, but you have no reason to come on a site for bisexuals and slam the males with your generalities.
Amen to that.

[void()]

Void, are you black?If you are not, then you really don't know what bigotry is. And in case you have not notice most gay white men are racists

No, I'm not black. Did have mulatto in the family along the way but that fact never played any import in our family. I am unfortunately rather caucasian, albeit with traces of Rom and Native American tossed in to make me a genuine mutt.

Bigotry is discriminating against anyone for any reason. Bigotry is hate.

Okay, established I'm white. I'm also a bisexual, not homosexual. My name is not most either. But again you're tarring a group of people with big wide brush. I dislike this course you choose, dislike use of such wide and absolute brushes. I think better of you, for you to continue disrespecting yourself.

I brought race up to illustrate my point to you Bi Virgin. Bigotry is bigotry was and is my point. I was not slurring anyone due to race, creed, gender. I even offset it in my post to alert to the fact that I did so only in illustration of a point.

Hurts when someone excludes you simply for being yourself, doesn't it? Hurts when someone considers you a thief, thug, killer or whatever simply because you fit into an easily classifiable group, doesn't it?

Doesn't matter what group you are classed in, bigotry and discrimination are still bigotry and discrimination.

[Decoy]

To add my two sense, I feel that a bisexual who stereotypes another bisexual, regardless of gender, is a big hypocrite. Period. We all go through the same stereotypes (more or less) from others who are not bisexuals sometimes, so to stereotype each other doesn't make any sense at all. Pot calling the kettle black basically.

But to get back on topic, there are a few stereotypes that do get on my nerves:

1. Bisexuals don't exist. You can either like one or the other.
(I can't tell you how many times this was said to me. That I'm either straight and just confused, or I'm just a closeted gay. It's amazing that some people can be so ignorant and only see in black and white)

2. All Bisexuals are promiscuous.
(Anyone can be a cheater whether you're gay, straight, or bisexual. Just because you like both doesn't mean you're more inclined to cheat.)

3. Bisexuals only like sexual relationships with the same sex. At the end of the day, bisexuals will be with the opposite sex because that's what they prefer and to fit into society (Yes I've been told this)
(I'm not even going to argue with this because it's utter bullshit.)

I know plenty more irritating stereotypes but the ones above just really get under my skin.

[void()]

But to get back on topic, there are a few stereotypes that do get on my nerves:

1. Bisexuals don't exist. You can either like one or the other.
(I can't tell you how many times this was said to me. That I'm either straight and just confused, or I'm just a closeted gay. It's amazing that some people can be so ignorant and only see in black and white)

2. All Bisexuals are promiscuous.
(Anyone can be a cheater whether you're gay, straight, or bisexual. Just because you like both doesn't mean you're more inclined to cheat.)

3. Bisexuals only like sexual relationships with the same sex. At the end of the day, bisexuals will be with the opposite sex because that's what they prefer and to fit into society (Yes I've been told this)
(I'm not even going to argue with this because it's utter bullshit.)


I especially <sarcasm>love</sarcasm> your second example. We are thought unable of having anything beyond a capacity to fuck anyone. Bisexuals can and do love other people, can be and are compassionate, honorable, loyal. As you say anyone can be a cheater. Your other two examples I chuckle at as piles of dung. Also love one about bi folks being selfish.

[tenni]

To add my two sense, I feel that a bisexual who stereotypes another bisexual, regardless of gender, is a big hypocrite. Period. We all go through the same stereotypes (more or less) from others who are not bisexuals sometimes, so to stereotype each other doesn't make any sense at all. Pot calling the kettle black basically.


2. All Bisexuals are promiscuous.
(Anyone can be a cheater whether you're gay, straight, or bisexual. Just because you like both doesn't mean you're more inclined to cheat.)

I know plenty more irritating stereotypes but the ones above just really get under my skin.

I agree with you that "All bisexuals are promiscuous" is a negative stereotype.

Where I disagree is your connecting promiscuous bisexuals as "cheating" are you not creating another negative stereotype?

Promiscuity and cheating are two separate points. Being promiscuous should not be seen as a bad thing on its own for bisexuals and yet you connect it to cheating.

Single promiscuous bisexuals are not cheating. Nor are people who are swingers or poly necessarily cheaters.

We are just slutty (lol... to reinforce another negative stereotype) or more positively Bonobo sharing our love with those that need a little lovin. ;)

btw There are stereotypes put in the positive. "All God fearing Christians are good" is one. It seems to be when we are all inclusive about a group negatively that stereotypes get dicey.

[CurEUs_Male]

Wow, I find this entire thread disturbing.
From the very first post it was not an open discussion heading in a good direction.

TBV - I have not had the pleasure to review all your previous posts, but you seem to have a major issue with bisexual men based on this thread alone. It makes me wonder why you are on this site, which is primarily bisexual men (admittedly this is not a scientific study, just looking at the numbers of single men vs. couples vs. single women profiles). I would say also you have a big chip on your shoulder, and wonder where that came from? All too often some people get into a rut while posting on forums such as this, and a personality begins to form. Outside of this site, you may have a great personality, you may well be very sociable, and endearing to your friends, BUT from your words here, you come across very negatively.
I saw your comment that you have been better lately, but you should keep in mind that your last post is not the only post people are remembering. Therefore, it will take a long time to become a better 'personality' on a site where every previous post is easily seen.

When it comes to bigotry remarks, either straight out or somewhat hidden as a stereotype, it's never a good idea. I learned that many years ago as I was raised to be accepting. Personally I saw families preaching acceptance while following a church which convinced them to be un-accepting of their own children. Ripping apart families, and spreading hate. This sticks with me now as I have come to realize I have a non-heterosexual orientation. It is a struggle with my wife as well, since she is not in line with my thought process. There was even a lot if issues between us because some of the bisexual-male based stereotypes that you have been quoted making on this site. It is just as hurtful for people to read those remarks here, on a site that is based on acceptance and support for those of us that have what may be considered a non-traditional inclination. This has been very traumatic for me, as it was for my brother when he came out as gay. It was traumatic when my cousin was essentially disavowed by his parents. I understand they both had a much more difficult time than I did, but that doesn't discount the pain and struggles I now am going through. There is no level that feels good to the one being treated wrongly simply because someone else has it worse.

None of this has to do with skin color, and I had no idea your background until you stated it here. All others and I have is what you put in front of us. We may jump to conclusions based on a very small image of who you are. Instead of ranting back and forth on bad assumptions and negative thoughts, why not put your efforts into showing us what a kind and compassionate person you are. Instead of posts about negative things, look for an opportunity to post positive things.

We do not just see with our eyes, but with our minds. THis should be an open minded community. If you cant see that (with your mind) and do not want to be part of an open, supportive community, perhaps you should log off one last time, and find a community that fits your personal image better?

Good luck in your quest, whatever it is.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

You also talked about white gay men saying that most of them are racist. Also you referred to my "white privelege" when I was not the one who brought race into this, so therefore making me pay for what someone else said. I didn't even comment on your statement about race, I left race out of it when you talked about my "white privelege" . So who is putting words in who's mouth? You keep on bringing up race with people who were leaving race out of the matter.

No i said from my experiences they are racists, please re-read what I wrote. And I only accused you of white privilege is because you agreed bigotry against skin color, and sexual preferences is the same thing,only someone who is white will say that,because they don't know what it's like to be black.

[Jobelorocks]

No i said from my experiences they are racists, please re-read what I wrote. And I only accused you of white privilege is because you agreed bigotry against skin color, and sexual preferences is the same thing,only someone who is white will say that,because they don't know what it's like to be black.
When did I ever say it was the same thing. Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about race until you talked about my "white privelege" I was talking about your prejudice against bisexual men. Nothing else. Notice, I didn't bring up race until you brought up mine. You know I married a mixed race man because I am so racist. My family is a mixed race family. All the women but one in my family have married men of different races. So you don't know shit about me. So take your bad attitude and your assumptions elsewhere.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Hey, Bisexual Virgin, let me pretty blunt here, i don't care if you are black, white, purple or plaid that's not the problem I have with your posts, the problem I have is you appear to be a clueless bitch who rants about bi males not able to really love women or not be faithful to partners. It's not our fault or the men we know and loves fault that you can't seem to find anyone to be happy with, but you have no reason to come on a site for bisexuals and slam the males with your generalities.

Actually I am very happy with a straight man right now. And you are right,it's not your fault of anything they do, it's theirs. And please refrain from calling me a bitch,you egotistical slut.

[DuckiesDarling]

Actually I am very happy with a straight man right now. And you are right,it's not your fault of anything they do, it's theirs. And please refrain from calling me a bitch,you egotistical slut.

egotistical slut??? You obviously don't know me very well at all. I said you appear to be a clueless bitch i didn't flat out call you one but boy am I thinking it very hard now.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

When did I ever say it was the same thing. Stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say anything about race until you talked about my "white privelege" I was talking about your prejudice against bisexual men. Nothing else. Notice, I didn't bring up race until you brought up mine. You know I married a mixed race man because I am so racist. My family is a mixed race family. All the women but one in my family have married men of different races. So you don't know shit about me. So take your bad attitude and your assumptions elsewhere.
No sweetie, you are not listening. I said you co-signed with him. That's all. And please do not bring your family into this, I really do not need to know unless you really need someone to talk too,I will listen as sympathetic person, and please stop responding. Thank you. I really wish people would get back on topic,instead of worrying about me.

[Paddarick69]

oh if only Bisexual Virgin's very strange belief about bisexual men only being sexually attracted to men were true my wife would sleep so much better at night not having to worry about the foxy neighbor chick and that girl who works at the store next to me and those ex-girlfriends on my friends list and what might happen if Christina Hendrix showed up on our doorstep, etc... oh wait, but she wouldn't sleep better at night because she wouldn't have been shagged rotten into blissful slumber :)

[The Bisexual Virgin]

egotistical slut??? You obviously don't know me very well at all. I said you appear to be a clueless bitch i didn't flat out call you one but boy am I thinking it very hard now.

Basically you did, you sugar coated it. Anyways let me try to get back on topic

Bisexual women give aids to lesbians. I hear that often from lesbians

Bisexual women are really straight. I hear that often too.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

To add my two sense, I feel that a bisexual who stereotypes another bisexual, regardless of gender, is a big hypocrite. Period. We all go through the same stereotypes (more or less) from others who are not bisexuals sometimes, so to stereotype each other doesn't make any sense at all. Pot calling the kettle black basically.

But to get back on topic, there are a few stereotypes that do get on my nerves:

1. Bisexuals don't exist. You can either like one or the other.
(I can't tell you how many times this was said to me. That I'm either straight and just confused, or I'm just a closeted gay. It's amazing that some people can be so ignorant and only see in black and white)

2. All Bisexuals are promiscuous.
(Anyone can be a cheater whether you're gay, straight, or bisexual. Just because you like both doesn't mean you're more inclined to cheat.)

3. Bisexuals only like sexual relationships with the same sex. At the end of the day, bisexuals will be with the opposite sex because that's what they prefer and to fit into society (Yes I've been told this)
(I'm not even going to argue with this because it's utter bullshit.)

I know plenty more irritating stereotypes but the ones above just really get under my skin.

Thank you for responding.

[Jobelorocks]

Void, are you black?If you are not, then you really don't know what bigotry is. And in case you have not notice most gay white men are racists
Nothing here said anything about in your experience most gay white men are racist. You just said most were.

[csrakate]

And remember ladies and gentlemen, all this mess started because some lady was holding a grudge against me.

I don't have a grudge against you, BV. I just found it appalling that YOU, of all people, started a thread about bisexual stereotypes when you have posted so many negative comments about bisexual men and you continue to perpetuate the myth that bisexual men are not to be trusted. I understand that you're young and haven't experienced life as some of us have, but in the same vein, you have no right to portray bisexual men in such a negative light when you haven't experienced any of the so called bad behavior that you rant about. You claim to have "seen" it with your own eyes and that statement alone is one of the most immature comments I have ever read. Have you been hiding behind bedroom doors, BV? Have you personally witnessed bisexual men not truly being sexually attracted to their wives? There have been many people who have testified to the opposite being true but you refuse to acknowledge those of us who may have actually had positive experiences. THAT is a sign of your lack of maturity.

Sorry if you feel your thread got hijacked but you need to grow up a bit. Try experiencing life a bit more before you make blanket statements about an entire group of people. You may find yourself pleasantly surprised by what you discover.

[Jobelorocks]

No sweetie, you are not listening. I said you co-signed with him. That's all. And please do not bring your family into this, I really do not care, and please stop responding. Thank you. I really wish people would get back on topic,instead of worrying about me.
No one cares about the topic because you started the thread and you have stereotyped male bisexuals yourself in this forum many many many times and you are a hypocrite. You try to make me to out to be a racist when that is totally untrue. Don't call me sweetie. I am listening, but you seem not to be. You are sure worried about me, since you keep replying to me. I don't like prejudice people especially when they spout their prejudice about a certain group in a forum made for that group.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Nothing here said anything about in your experience most gay white men are racist. You just said most were.

In a following post I did.From my encounters, and from what other black men tell me.

[Paddarick69]

meh, Bisexual Virgin is an attention slut with a VERY limited experience with life... ignore the person

[The Bisexual Virgin]

No one cares about the topic because you started the thread and you have stereotyped male bisexuals yourself in this forum many many many times and you are a hypocrite. You try to make me to out to be a racist when that is totally untrue. Don't call me sweetie. I am listening, but you seem not to be. You are sure worried about me, since you keep replying to me. I don't like prejudice people especially when they spout their prejudice about a certain group in a forum made for that group.

I did not say you were, It did not even come to my mind. I accused you of white privilege. that's all. A person can that without knowing it.And should I remind you are the one that came into this thread in the first place?

[The Bisexual Virgin]

meh, Bisexual Virgin is an attention slut with a VERY limited experience with life... ignore the person

Actually I am far from a slut. And the best way to ignore me is do not come into a thread I started. Thank you, jackass.

[Jobelorocks]

In a following post I did.From my encounters, and from what other black men tell me.
But in that one you didn't and you wonder why people are offended. The second post just seems like back pedaling and adding in that from your experience to try to cover the fact that you are prejudice.

[Jobelorocks]

I did not say you were, It did not even come to my mind. I accused you of white privilege. that's all. A person can that without knowing it.And should I remind you are the one that came into this thread in the first place?
I did because I was like, really she is starting a thread on annoying bisexual stereotypes. Has she not realized that she has blasted bisexual men and stereotyped them numerous times. Ya, you accused me of "white privelege", when I didn't comment at all about what you were saying about bringing race up. I didn't even mention it. I talked about you spouting your anti-bi male speech yet again. I didn't touch on the race thing, because that is a bad subject to get mixed up in and I am not stupid, I was just going to let you two fight that out.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

But in that one you didn't and you wonder why people are offended. The second post just seems like back pedaling and adding in that from your experience to try to cover the fact that you are prejudice.

I was not back pedaling. I just forgot to add it.

[Jobelorocks]

I was not back pedaling. I just forgot to add it.
Oh so conveniently.

[Paddarick69]

snort... I made Bisexual Virgin angry!!!

[The Bisexual Virgin]

I don't have a grudge against you, BV. I just found it appalling that YOU, of all people, started a thread about bisexual stereotypes when you have posted so many negative comments about bisexual men and you continue to perpetuate the myth that bisexual men are not to be trusted. I understand that you're young and haven't experienced life as some of us have, but in the same vein, you have no right to portray bisexual men in such a negative light when you haven't experienced any of the so called bad behavior that you rant about. You claim to have "seen" it with your own eyes and that statement alone is one of the most immature comments I have ever read. Have you been hiding behind bedroom doors, BV? Have you personally witnessed bisexual men not truly being sexually attracted to their wives? There have been many people who have testified to the opposite being true but you refuse to acknowledge those of us who may have actually had positive experiences. THAT is a sign of your lack of maturity.

Sorry if you feel your thread got hijacked but you need to grow up a bit. Try experiencing life a bit more before you make blanket statements about an entire group of people. You may find yourself pleasantly surprised by what you discover.

It's okay. I actually hijacked a few threads myself, and it really was not hijacked, you did stay on point,somewhat.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

No, I'm not black. Did have mulatto in the family along the way but that fact never played any import in our family. I am unfortunately rather caucasian, albeit with traces of Rom and Native American tossed in to make me a genuine mutt.

Bigotry is discriminating against anyone for any reason. Bigotry is hate.

Okay, established I'm white. I'm also a bisexual, not homosexual. My name is not most either. But again you're tarring a group of people with big wide brush. I dislike this course you choose, dislike use of such wide and absolute brushes. I think better of you, for you to continue disrespecting yourself.

I brought race up to illustrate my point to you Bi Virgin. Bigotry is bigotry was and is my point. I was not slurring anyone due to race, creed, gender. I even offset it in my post to alert to the fact that I did so only in illustration of a point.

Hurts when someone excludes you simply for being yourself, doesn't it? Hurts when someone considers you a thief, thug, killer or whatever simply because you fit into an easily classifiable group, doesn't it?

Doesn't matter what group you are classed in, bigotry and discrimination are still bigotry and discrimination.

To you bigotry is the same, to me it's not. I guess the reason I was so upset, most people, and this can for all races don't know the depths of bigotry that we as blacks have suffered,and will suffer. Hell most people, don't really know our history besides slavery, Malcolm X, MLK, Rosa Parks, and Harriet Tubman.

[Jobelorocks]

Actually I am very happy with a straight man right now. And you are right,it's not your fault of anything they do, it's theirs. And please refrain from calling me a bitch,you egotistical slut.
If you are going to call someone a name, at least call them one that could possibly fit them. I could see you calling me a slut because I am a swinger, but DD is monogamous.

[Decoy]

Oops. I did in fact confuse promiscuity and cheating. I apologize. The point I was trying to make was that I don't like when we are labeled as cheaters or more likely to cheat just for our orientation. And I was listing stereotypes that were said to me at one point. I wasn't trying to use the stereotypes myself. Sorry if I was misunderstood. (that's why I hate typing what I'm trying to say. It never comes out right lol)

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Wow. I dont know the original poster, but it seems she is always making generalizations about Bi men? Why is this? I'm From the South, which has nothing to do with stereotypes, but I dont get why bi men are being singled out.

And "so you cannot say shit to me unless you are agreeing with me like you did last time" he cant say anything to you unless he Agrees with you?

Weird thread.
Cat

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

Somebody needs a cookie. And a nap. And name calling over a thread is immature and senseless. Its not that big of a deal. Chill ladies.
Cat

[Rhevan]

Reading this thread and just finding myself so on the verge of a pithy comment but I'll refrain because it would be pointless. There are those that will always refuse to see when they point a finger the other four are pointing back at them.

As for DD being a slut... boy do I wish she was but alas she's one of those faithful people with the sexiest voice I have ever heard.

Rhevan

[biblkman]

Ok, bisexual virgin...I'm a biracial,bisexual man.

I hate hypocrisy!!! As a black woman You already know what its like to be stereotyped and discriminated and you don't like stereotypes against bi women right?

But yet you have posted threads in where you clearly demonize,stereotype and just come off as a woman scorned when it comes to bisexual men.

I'm confused as to how someone in your shoes can be such a hypocrite and insensitive on the issue of bi men

[The Bisexual Virgin]

Ok, bisexual virgin...I'm a biracial,bisexual man.

I hate hypocrisy!!! As a black woman You already know what its like to be stereotyped and discriminated and you don't like stereotypes against bi women right?

But yet you have posted threads in where you clearly demonize,stereotype and just come off as a woman scorned when it comes to bisexual men.

I'm confused as to how someone in your shoes can be such a hypocrite and insensitive on the issue of bi men

I don't know. Maybe I am not as fond of bisexual men as I use to be. Maybe I am loosing interest in them,as I get older. I use to find bisexual men quite attractive at one point(still kind of do), but that attraction is slowly deteriorating. And I don't mean just sexual. And I hope people don't take what I just wrote, and make it seem like a hate speech.

And I am not scorned, I just have my judgements just like everyone else. Hopefully my judgements will change overtime,but I doubt it/

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

"Bisexual women give aids to lesbians. I hear that often from lesbians/Bisexual women are really straight. I hear that often too."

ExCuse me? And you're How old? Now youre bashing bisexual women too? Oh good grief.
Click.
Cat

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

And just for the record. DD is Not a Slut. But I'd do my best to turn her into one if she ever came to visit. Then I'd send her home to Duck....LMAO
;)
Lecherous Cat

[biblkman]

I don't know what's there to fond of ?

Let's say you met a bisexual male coworker and the two of you had some good laughs at work no sexual attraction just you two being cool, your bi he's bi you laugh and enjoy his company you have a lot in common...would you make a friendship out of it or would you pass up the possibility of a long lasting friendship cause you are not fond of bi men.

It's cool if your not attracted to bi men but you might miss out on a great friendship or more, if you continue to close your mind and your heart you will never get the wonderfully diversity that makes people so unique.

help to stop perpetuating some of there negative stereotypes and more bi men will surly surprise you...of course when your young and discovering yourself its hard not to be bias...but I'm sure if you keep yourself open you will find that a couple positive experiences will far outway the negative...it just takes time and maturity.

[The Bisexual Virgin]

I don't know what's there to fond of ?

Let's say you met a bisexual male coworker and the two of you had some good laughs at work no sexual attraction just you two being cool, your bi he's bi you laugh and enjoy his company you have a lot in common...would you make a friendship out of it or would you pass up the possibility of a long lasting friendship cause you are not fond of bi men.

It's cool if your not attracted to bi men but you might miss out on a great friendship or more, if you continue to close your mind and your heart you will never get the wonderfully diversity that makes people so unique.

help to stop perpetuating some of there negative stereotypes and more bi men will surly surprise you...of course when your young and discovering yourself its hard not to be bias...but I'm sure if you keep yourself open you will find that a couple positive experiences will far outway the negative...it just takes time and maturity.

I did not say, I wouldn't be their friends, I don't mind being their friends,cause I feel like networking is very important in life And thanks for the advice.

[void()]

And I hope people don't take what I just wrote, and make it seem like a hate speech.
And I am not scorned, I just have my judgements just like everyone else.


I did not say, I wouldn't be their friends, I don't mind being their friends,cause I feel like networking is very important in life.

Compassion, respect, empathy and equality are important to life. Something I have found in being roughly twice your age, is that humility often hallmarks and heralds this other traits. Being humble means you accept others at face value, people as people.

It can also mean not stepping on miniscule ants, recognizing they are equal to yourself in living. Yes, at times I get terrified of having to watch my step. An ant has to tell me it's okay to just live.

They know about networking, ants. I've watched them build bridges from leaves, twigs, themselves. They do not judge one another, all are equal.

Unfortunately, I'm human. This means I aspire to virtues while still having feet of clay. No one but saints are saints.

I feel things based upon environment, upon what others say. As a result, please grant me time before I write and talk withe you again. There were things said which cut emotionally.

Not scorning you but right now it would be difficult to welcome you open armed as a friend. I'm a big old guy, often intimidate folks without trying. Friends know though I hug, am gentle. You need to wait for that now. Again, apologies I'm not quite as virtuous as the noble ant.

[ncfriendforyou]

Dude I rarely get mad over the internet but you trying compare skin color to, whoever the hell some bisexual man fucks is grating on my nerves. The one thing cannot stand or tolerate is for people to compare skin color or sexual preferences. My eyes work just fine. In fact they work so fine that all I see is men looking for hookups with other men, bisexual me looking for cocks to suck,bisexual men cheating on their wives with other men,bisexual men leaving their wives to be with other men, and bisexual men doing whatever the hell else with other men.And it's not just here it's everywhere, so you trying to deny what I said will not work.

And I have not once spewed any hate. People like you are so fucking quick to call someone hateful just because you do not agree with someone.

I don't deny what you said, but I respectfully disagree with part of it. In my opinion, the reason "all you see" is because that's all you are looking for, so you don't "see" anything that goes against what you already have convinced yourself is true. Unfortunately, I have talked to a lot of guys who fit the stereotypical behavior patterns that you mentioned, and I disdain labels to begin with, but since I happen to enjoy physical contact with men, I guess by default that makes me "bi", even though I hate even using the goddamn word and the stigma attached to it. I am also happily married to a woman who supports me in every way, even if it involves physical contact with another guy. I'm the type of person that seeks to be around healthy (mentally and physically), stable people and develop relationships instead of engaging in risky, emotionally empty, mindless hookups, so my potential pool of partners is greatly diminished due to having standards. Am I the norm? Well probably not. Is it unheard of to be in my situation? I doubt it.

I'm not going to be idiotic enough to make the assumption that I have even a clue as to what other mens' motivations are, but I will say that I sincerely believe that at least some of the men you mentioned wish that they could be open about themselves with their wives/girlfriends without the fear of being labelled "gay". I have spoken to more than one man who said his greatest wish was to be able to share everything about himself to his SO, maybe even have her be a part of it. I used to be one of those men until I took a chance and told my wife. I would never go back to the way things were, and even if my relationship ended with my wife, any future potential females in my life would know about me very early on in our relationship. So, all of us "bi" folks (men and women) don't fit into neat little boxes any more than straight or gay people do.
Peace!

[jimdawg]

Honestly, if I were to sum up society's attitudes on the sexual behavior of bisexuals in general, it would be thus:

Anyone who enjoys sex with men outside of a "traditional marriage" type setting (where that has occurred or is the goal) is a "slut".

Hence the ability by one of the posters here to consistently say how people like me can't be monogamous and what not.

I would further add that any woman who enjoys sex outside of the "traditional marriage" goal is a lesbian and thus "hates men" simply because a lack of sexual interest.

All stereotypes perpetuate from these two things. Except, of course, that men who have sex with men seemingly perpetual disease. Want to read an email I received from okcupid?

"I don't mind bi guys as long as they dont like it in the butt. Cause thats risky."

There's a huge double standard I think when it comes from straights to gays in sexual behavior and stereotype. Then there's a double standard between straight, gays compared to bisexuals (we spread diseases to both communities). And I'm not sure if bisexual men or women get the short shaft more often.

As far as the OP is concerned, I tend to ignore her posts as either man-hating or homophobic on the topic of men while trying to drive her own attitude towards sexuality. So I find it amusing that she would complain about bisexual stereotypes, and telling that she would only list those about women. I don't need to read any more of the posts to realize that she won't accept that, nor (like on other threads I've posted on) do I need to read further to know where the conversation would go. Of course, when you try to make a point that someone hates something, everyone always reflects to proof that they're not hateful inherently against a group. So I expect her to condemn my accusation that she hates men, regardless of sexuality. This isn't a lack of sexual interest, unlike the stereotype I complain about above, but actual perceived hostility. Nor is it tied with lesbianism, I've clearly met a lot of straight women who have this attitude.