Koko the Klown (Drugstore Cowboy)

[SJMurph]

Dear Drugstore Cowboy,

Please provide your intellectually rich content hereafter.

After the entertaining pummeling and metaphorical black eyes you received from Aeonpax, I thought you deserved your own special thread dedicated to your narcissism and sinister banter. Further, myself and others believe you are deserving of your own reality show thread, so that you can continue to make salacious remarks about others for no other reason that to fulfill your disturbing diatribe.

I will continue my very entertaining Drugstore Cowboy "Coco the Clown" story in this thread so not to disturb others and detract from their own postings.

So, please, post very interesting and highly entertaining text in this space.

Respecfully,

SJMurph

[SJMurph]

And there he goes, the man who calls himself Drugstore Cowboy. Overweight, dumpy, and balding. A man who has lost his prime and now has lost his ability to connect with others. A social outcast, he is enraged at how they ignore him and taunt him. Angry and bitter, he stands at the mirror and colors his cheeks with red red rouge. His lips he pastes them with lipstick wide around the lips to form a widening happy face. He notices how he looks old, and saggy. Frustrated he recalls how they ignore him. He's done nothing to them but be friendly and generous. In school they ignored him there too; he hated the way they just passed over him and even laughed at him. There was the time he thought, were he asked her for a date, she giggled, then laughed. He knew he was different then. When she laughed and giggled, he felt hurt and frustrated. The memory of that one time, the first time and only time, held the pain. The deep seated pain that he felt overwhelms him even now. He shakes his head and continues to apply the thick and cakey makeup. More around the eyes, he mused. Maybe next time, black. Black around the eyes he thought would be good. He stepped back like he had just had a revelation. Then the sinking thoughts of years ago crept back in. The playground, they laughed, one boy even called him a Baffoon. It enraged him, and he continued to paste the make up on.

He slipped the large colorful clown suite over his head and buttoned up the front. Large round red buttons the size of saucer lives. He stepped back front of the mirror and stood there. He was Coco, Coco the clown. When he put on his clown outfit and pasted the makeup on, no one would recognize him or the hurt that was deep inside. It was powerful feeling to be contained inside the Coco outfit. Unlike the Drugstore Cowboy denim shirt, boots and silver belt buckle, here, they couldn't get to him. Coco had something else that Drugstore Cowboy didn't, people talked to him and the laughed with him and not at him. He liked that. He liked it that an ordinary woman would approach him and accept a Coco balloon from him. She would laugh and liked how he laughed. He thought almost for a moment, that they found Coco attractive. When he was Coco, he was someone special, with special skills and abilities. After all, no one was afraid of Coco. But at the end of the day, when Coco would drive home in his 1983 ford festive, he knew he would end his day as Coco. And as such, he would be who he was before.

On the way home he looked into the rearview mirror and saw an balding and aging Coco. At some point, he would not able to be Coco. He resented that it was only Coco they wanted and not himself. He wasn't stupid, he knew the difference between himself and Coco, and that in his Coco costume, while allowing himself to express himself, Coco was just another persona. And in that lament, and in that moment driving down the freeway, he realized his deeper relationship with Coco. A deeper relationship that even he was afraid of.

Coco was the proxy for his internal mayhem. Coco could do what the Drugstore Cowboy could never. With his stetson hat, sliver belt buckle, tight jeans and boots, he could cruise and canvass the bars, bathrooms and alley ways for men. He could talk with confidence and banter back and fourth about cattle, trucks, and land. There was the time, he had one city slicker convinced that he had a wide texas ranch with a thousand cattle; and that he and his men, would ride just like they do in the movies. Rounding up calves and stamping them on the ass with a hot iron. "thats important" he said loudly. "You have to watch for them damned rustlers" he boasted. He had the city slicker completely "buffalo'ed" as he like to say. Coco, didn't boast, for that matter coco didn't talk not while in character anyway. There were two Coco's. One that loved the laughter, balloons, candy and snow cones. Then there was the Coco of the night. That Coco, was mayhem, and even Drugstore Cowboy knew there was something sinister in his needs. Drugstore Cowboy could talk big, and snap his fingers at skinny little waitresses and tell them to show some modesty. Telling them to close their shirts, button up, and lecture them on the being appropriate. But Coco, had no need of that kind of talk. Coco's needs were from a dark place, where not many people would ever choose to go.

Drugstore Cowboy, masked as Coco, paned the road ahead. He was looking to get home before the darkness fell. He knew all too well what happens when he is Coco too long. The insidious lust that Drugstore Cowboy felt, or the sexual desire and hormonal lust that controlled him, had an entirely different effect on Coco. The human call for Drugstore Cowboy lead him to public restrooms after the dim light of pornography dulled his senses. He could slip into the dark to the urinal and feces stench of the local Texaco gas station, wait for an hour and some lonely and desperate aging man like himself, would knock several raps of the password. Drugstore would open the door and in the darkens Drugstore would relieve the trodden man of his needs. On other nights, Drugstore Cowboy would cruise the bars where young and foolish college kids would drink themselves into oblivion. He would find one that is drunk beyond the ability to talk and would stumble randomly not knowing where to go. Drugstore Cowboy would put his hand on the pudgy pimple faced kid and with all the confidence he could muster "Ok, young fella, I think you need to get a taxi home. This is no place for behavin' like that." He'd pause, then exclaim "we need to get the tourists home in bed where they belong, ha. Amateurs!" He'd laugh in his knowing way. Drugstore would call a taxi and help the blathering incoherant youth in the back seat. He'd slide in next to the boy and say "ok, kiddo, tell the man where you live!" The kid, would ramble out some numbers barley audible and the driver would click the timer then accelerate into the traffic. Drugstore watched the kid as he swirled around in a complete alcohol induced state. And in the darkness Drugstore would slide his hand to the kids crotch. No response, none, the kid would just fall back into the seat and was unconscious. Drugstore unzips his pants and vigorously masterbates, looking periodically to the driver to make sure he wasn't watching. Drugstore feels rushed as the kid begins to gag and makes vomit sounds. He leans forward as if he's going to puke, but just sits there. Drugstore now hurried, masterbates against his dulled testosterone briskly then violently to reach some state of ejaculation. But nothing comes. Frustrated he twists in the seat, drops one knee to the floor and one on the seat and pounds harder and faster than he ever has. Now ignoring the driver, he jams his hand down the pants of the kid now moaning that he's going to be sick. Drugstore feels the kids warm, small and limp penis. He gropes the kid awkwardly then finally he erupts, a half weak surge. He has semen on his hand and quickly puts his retracted small penis back in his pants and buckles his belt. He looks over at the now sick kid in disgust and with contempt. Drugstore wipes his semen on the kids pant leg. He thinks, "you'll think you had a good time in the morning". With that, Drugstore, calls to the driver, "Pull over here, this is my stop" The cabby pulls over and drugstore opens the door. stepping out he glances back to the driver "what the fuck do you want? The kids got the fair." And he walks into the dark.

Coco on the other hand, cannot be satisfied by such antics. His needs go beyond lust. His are the manifestation of his deep seated hatred for women. He hates women and he hates youth. His misogynistic angst wells up into a dark violent rage. It leads him to go to the places where only Drugstore could see in fantasy. Coco, needed not sex but to unravel his deepest darkest rages against society. Coco is a sociopath. He is calculating, sinister, and controlling. He make Drugstore, do things that even he knows is too much. Coco, pulls the car to the curb in front of a liquor store where he sees three prostitutes working their nightly routine. He's seen them before, but never talked to them. He would never talk to them, that would be awkward and embarrassing. He needed a bottle of blackberry brandy, the cheap stuff. Two bottles, they like blackberry brandy, he thought. He could always get what he needed with a bottle of sweet liquor; the winos and drunks down on skid row, had no respect for themselves. He had needs and so did they, "they" were willing to do anything for booze, especially when the were two days dry. The prostitutes, he would come back and deal with them later.......

[SJMurph]

Drugstore:

Now why would you write something so nasty about crskate as listed below:

"For the last time I'm not diamond dog whoever that is. I can't be bothered to look through all of your boring posts and drivel. You are also against bisexual men. Unless you're getting your gash licked out by a woman, or licking her gash or having other types of sex with women you're straight. You yourself have also said how you're hetero/straight."

Now why would you be so completely disrespectful? And you are trying to tell us all here that you don't despise women and cut them up? This sounds like the psycho freak Koko the Klown talking.

[SJMurph]

Drugstore,

In case you haven't figured it out, 99.99% of the people on this website think women going down on other women is really kicks ass. It seems your position is that men do men, women do men, but women don't do women because that's ugly and grotesque.

[Gearbox]

This is very sad SJMurph. I don't speak for all, but this isn't what I feel comfortable reading here. It isn't entertaining, clever, nor justified. You can not sneer at another when you act in this way.
Members have been banned for this, and you should be too. It's a shame.

[pepperjack]

This is very sad SJMurph. I don't speak for all, but this isn't what I feel comfortable reading here. It isn't entertaining, clever, nor justified. You can not sneer at another when you act in this way.
Members have been banned for this, and you should be too. It's a shame.

It does appear to cross a line; it's not simple retaliation but comes across as obsessive and intensely venomous hatred.

[hudson9]

Don't feed the Troll.

The posts speak for themselves. (They just don't say what the poster thinks they do.)

[pepperjack]

Which is why I believe in discernment, reading between the lines and the natural lie detector known as body language, which is absent here.

[darkeyes]

Gear.. I must admit that having read the Koko posts I am anything but comfortable with them... I have no objection to ridicule when it is justified but there is a point at which it becomes overkill and counter productive.. whether SJ has reached that point I really have no idea.. but it is not a way which I am comfortable with neither do I think it very pretty. It is certainly sneering... sneering at one who has sneered in a particularly viscious way and been allowed to get away with it too long.. sneering at anyone and everyone who had the slightest difference from his point of view... from any who so much as hinted at criticism.. he lied about many people.. not just Joan.. he lied about what they said, what they believed and what they were. He has done so again just this very day... even if u believe what he said about Joan, even if u believe what u believe Joan said and was, you just have to read a few of his posts of the last day or so to see exactly what this man did and what he was like.

You accused me of negativity yesterday... in such a huge dispute as this site has had over the last few months, it is difficult to avoid negativity... for all my alleged negativity it bears no comparison to the blatant lies of this man and his consistent contempt for members of this site leaving aside Joan for the minute, one of whom at least actually agrees that Joan and BV should have been banned. No one comes out of this whole sorry saga with any distinction and even less dignity.. certainly not me.. we all bear responsibility.. on both sides of the argument.. but one above all others bears real blame... the one who cared not one whit about truth...still does not care...and whose loathing and paranoia has brought us to where we are now. If it had not been Joan it would have been someone else..

Joan never denied the science as Drew has claimed.. she accepted it.. a little too readily and literally.. and interpreted that science for her life alone...I doubted the science and still question the science far more than did and does Joan....but irrespective she used that science in her own way for her and no one else... she never once said that anyone else had to live as she... simply that based on the evidence, she had chosen the way she lived because that evidence led her to believe it was the best way for her....neither did she claim people were not what they claimed... she never said she hated bisexuals, men or women, that she denied them, that she hated them, disliked them and certainly not that they played no part in her life... she said that the science told her that it was safer not to have sex with bisexual men than men of any other group.. the science tells us that.. even with safer sex.. which is safer.. not safe.. the science tells us that to be a truth... whatever we think of the science, and many dispute it, and I certainly doubt it because as I told Joan, there are far too many unanswered questions and far too many imponderables..., and there is also far too much uncertainty within each sexualiity grouping not least questions about which grouping a person truly belongs....to be sure just what the truth of the matter is.. but.that is what the science, or at least our present state of knowledge of science tells us.. and even then... there are far too many differences of opinion , far too many studies with different outcomes, for us to be sure what science is really telling us...

All of this the cowboy played on... and his smokescreen of lies twisted the debate out of reality and is still doing so.. if nothing else in the last day or two, his most recent displays of contempt and the lies he spread should get each and everyone of us on this site to sit down take a breath and cut through the hyperbole, the animosity, the lies and the contempt and irritation which at one stage or other all of us have shown for each other and reappraise just what the truth is..

I do not like much Koko the Clown... it sits uneasy.. yet I understand why he exists even if I would rather he did not and more, that he had not been invented.. but I would say that compared to the sneering of the cowboy and the hurt he has caused so many people by his lies and his actions, and the contempt he has for all.. even u who agrees with him about Joan's various faults and for all I know, mine own, any hurt caused to him by the invention of Koko is a very light hurt indeed.

[void()]

Don't feed the Troll.

The posts speak for themselves. (They just don't say what the poster thinks they do.)

Interesting to see another thinking. One could wonder if two perhaps shared a common thought.

[littlerayofsunshine]

well I'm thinking too, but maybe no one else thinks like me. The Op is banned. It's like treating a symptom and not the disease.

[12voltman59]

All I can say is "What the hell is up with all of this craziness??"

I do have Drugstore Cowboy on ignore--but holy cowshit, Batman---old SJ went off the rails---thankfully Drew banned him.

Well--had he stayed and not been booted--I was sure to have put him on ignore as well.

It really is a great feature on here-----I really wished I had just went about ignoring anyone that was clearly going bonkers as soon as their insanity reared its ugly head---it would have made things much nicer then----it sure has been nicer on here for me since I started doing that.

[darkeyes]

well I'm thinking too, but maybe no one else thinks like me. The Op is banned. It's like treating a symptom and not the disease. .. treating both symptom and the disease with the wrong medicine I would suggest...

[void()]

.. treating both symptom and the disease with the wrong medicine I would suggest...

Don't think there really is a medicine for it.

[darkeyes]

Don't think there really is a medicine for it.
There is medicine, Voidie.. much like the medicine which prolongs life but cannot quite save it... and some, if prescribed properly can prolong life of a better quality longer and better than others...:)

[csrakate]

I will say upfront that I think SJMurph went too far with the Coco story.....It was unnecessarily creepy and even a troll doesn't deserve that sort of treatment. That being said, I still don't understand how drugstore cowboy is still among us. I guess the fact that he berates regular members repeatedly with lies and accusations isn't enough of an infraction for banning....or at least a bit of censuring. I must admit that it hurts me that we must put up with HIS nastiness...but the rest of us seem to drop like flies when we fight back. I don't understand, Drew....Please help me understand. I know you can't involve yourself in he said, she said situations....but this person blatantly attacks others and does so with lies and insanity. He resurrects old threads to stir up controversy....he continually points fingers at others but the minute they fight back, the person he attacks finds themselves banned. Help me understand, Drew. PLEASE! Guess I'll just have to resort to the ignore feature....but it still chaps my ass to know he can continue to post lies about me and if he's on my ignore list, I will not be able to defend myself because I will not see it. What a lovely place to be in.....unable to fight back against lies that are perpetrated....unable to be on a site where my reputation is safe from the rants of another. Is this one of the "extras" for being a loyal member? Is this one of the perks for being a PAYING member???


PS...it is no surprise that drugstore has taken a bit of a breather...as he has also with the other names....He knows Drew is watching and he is hiding, licking his wounds and planning for the next episode. He will lay low for a bit...and if he doesn't come back under the same names, he WILL be back....Mark my words....HE WILL BE BACK!

[Gearbox]

Gear.. I must admit that having read the Koko posts I am anything but comfortable with them... I have no objection to ridicule when it is justified but there is a point at which it becomes overkill and counter productive.. whether SJ has reached that point I really have no idea.. but it is not a way which I am comfortable with neither do I think it very pretty. It is certainly sneering... sneering at one who has sneered in a particularly viscious way and been allowed to get away with it too long.. sneering at anyone and everyone who had the slightest difference from his point of view... from any who so much as hinted at criticism.. he lied about many people.. not just Joan.. he lied about what they said, what they believed and what they were. He has done so again just this very day... even if u believe what he said about Joan, even if u believe what u believe Joan said and was, you just have to read a few of his posts of the last day or so to see exactly what this man did and what he was like.

You accused me of negativity yesterday... in such a huge dispute as this site has had over the last few months, it is difficult to avoid negativity... for all my alleged negativity it bears no comparison to the blatant lies of this man and his consistent contempt for members of this site leaving aside Joan for the minute, one of whom at least actually agrees that Joan and BV should have been banned. No one comes out of this whole sorry saga with any distinction and even less dignity.. certainly not me.. we all bear responsibility.. on both sides of the argument.. but one above all others bears real blame... the one who cared not one whit about truth...still does not care...and whose loathing and paranoia has brought us to where we are now. If it had not been Joan it would have been someone else..

Joan never denied the science as Drew has claimed.. she accepted it.. a little too readily and literally.. and interpreted that science for her life alone...I doubted the science and still question the science far more than did and does Joan....but irrespective she used that science in her own way for her and no one else... she never once said that anyone else had to live as she... simply that based on the evidence, she had chosen the way she lived because that evidence led her to believe it was the best way for her....neither did she claim people were not what they claimed... she never said she hated bisexuals, men or women, that she denied them, that she hated them, disliked them and certainly not that they played no part in her life... she said that the science told her that it was safer not to have sex with bisexual men than men of any other group.. the science tells us that.. even with safer sex.. which is safer.. not safe.. the science tells us that to be a truth... whatever we think of the science, and many dispute it, and I certainly doubt it because as I told Joan, there are far too many unanswered questions and far too many imponderables..., and there is also far too much uncertainty within each sexualiity grouping not least questions about which grouping a person truly belongs....to be sure just what the truth of the matter is.. but.that is what the science, or at least our present state of knowledge of science tells us.. and even then... there are far too many differences of opinion , far too many studies with different outcomes, for us to be sure what science is really telling us...

All of this the cowboy played on... and his smokescreen of lies twisted the debate out of reality and is still doing so.. if nothing else in the last day or two, his most recent displays of contempt and the lies he spread should get each and everyone of us on this site to sit down take a breath and cut through the hyperbole, the animosity, the lies and the contempt and irritation which at one stage or other all of us have shown for each other and reappraise just what the truth is..

I do not like much Koko the Clown... it sits uneasy.. yet I understand why he exists even if I would rather he did not and more, that he had not been invented.. but I would say that compared to the sneering of the cowboy and the hurt he has caused so many people by his lies and his actions, and the contempt he has for all.. even u who agrees with him about Joan's various faults and for all I know, mine own, any hurt caused to him by the invention of Koko is a very light hurt indeed.
SJMurph's thread was written and posted by SJMurph himself. Drugstore and Aeon had nothing to do with it.
He decided that this sneering cyberbullying nonsense is acceptable. So he has/had no right to condemn others for it. Which makes it all kind of hypocrytical, and of a pointless negative input to the whole site.

The thread is against the rules of the site, so he was banned. If that wasn't so, lots more would sit here and type insults. Some would be good at it, could be amusing, could be entertaining, could be just a waste of pixels on our monitors, and ALL definately a deterrent to new members seeking a bit of sense.

If Drugstore is a problem with his posts, then those who mimmick him are too. It doesn't solve anything by adding negativity to it.
You claimed you would hound Drugstore recently (words to that effect), and then THIS thread popped up. You probably inspired that, unintentionally but publicly. That's enough provocation to start some people off on a bullying spree. That's what I meant by 'spreading negativity'. Your not helping!
Lets pluck out the nastiness and forget WHO it comes from having any relivance.:)

[darkeyes]

SJMurph's thread was written and posted by SJMurph himself. Drugstore and Aeon had nothing to do with it.
He decided that this sneering cyberbullying nonsense is acceptable. So he has/had no right to condemn others for it. Which makes it all kind of hypocrytical, and of a pointless negative input to the whole site.

The thread is against the rules of the site, so he was banned. If that wasn't so, lots more would sit here and type insults. Some would be good at it, could be amusing, could be entertaining, could be just a waste of pixels on our monitors, and ALL definately a deterrent to new members seeking a bit of sense.

If Drugstore is a problem with his posts, then those who mimmick him are too. It doesn't solve anything by adding negativity to it.
You claimed you would hound Drugstore recently (words to that effect), and then THIS thread popped up. You probably inspired that, unintentionally but publicly. That's enough provocation to start some people off on a bullying spree. That's what I meant by 'spreading negativity'. Your not helping!
Lets pluck out the nastiness and forget WHO it comes from having any relivance.:)
I didn't inspire SJ and his clown... the cowboy did that all on his lonesome.. don't switch responsibility on to me for him getting a dose of medicine he wont like..

...and neither did I say I would hound the cowboy... I said he would find me standing up to him whenever he spread his poison and any others that did so.... I would be in his way... that is a far cry from saying I would hound him... he plays nice.. Fran plays nice.. not the same thing at all, Gear.. personally I find standing up to arrogant bullies quite positive, and wish I did have this wondrous ability to inspire others so to do.. there is an old saying to "set a thief to catch a thief..". in matters such as this I don't always accept that adage and did not like SJ and his clown.. I'm not sure I agree that he broke the rules of the site, but I accept that ur argument in respect of that does have some real merit.. but I wish u would recognise that the cowboy certainly did...often and for months... and that, Gear, is not helping...

I hate nastiness as much as any other and would have it plucked out.. and while I agree that we should not care who is nasty but have them dealt with whoever they are, I do wish you would take note of your own advice...

[falcondfw]

SJMurph's thread was written and posted by SJMurph himself. Drugstore and Aeon had nothing to do with it.
He decided that this sneering cyberbullying nonsense is acceptable. So he has/had no right to condemn others for it. Which makes it all kind of hypocrytical, and of a pointless negative input to the whole site.

The thread is against the rules of the site, so he was banned. If that wasn't so, lots more would sit here and type insults. Some would be good at it, could be amusing, could be entertaining, could be just a waste of pixels on our monitors, and ALL definately a deterrent to new members seeking a bit of sense.

If Drugstore is a problem with his posts, then those who mimmick him are too. It doesn't solve anything by adding negativity to it.
You claimed you would hound Drugstore recently (words to that effect), and then THIS thread popped up. You probably inspired that, unintentionally but publicly. That's enough provocation to start some people off on a bullying spree. That's what I meant by 'spreading negativity'. Your not helping!
Lets pluck out the nastiness and forget WHO it comes from having any relivance.:)

Gear,
I think you need to be fair about this. Unless Fran held down each of SJ's fingers as he typed, she is not responsible for his rants.
It is all about personal responsibility. SJ made the choice to post. HE made the thought process that came up with those vile statements. HIS fingers typed out the words. HE is solely responsible.
The world would be a much better place if more people believed in personal responsibility and acted that way.

[DuckiesDarling]

Why doesn't everyone just stop having goes at each other and stop posting in this thread if everyone has such a problem with the thread, for that matter if it was so bannable why wasn't the thread deleted??? Just wondering...

[12voltman59]

I do have to wonder why Drugstore Cowboy has not been banned---based on the responses that others post up to the shit he spews----and when they quote what he says so I do see that vile putrid crap that he puts out via the quotes.

I do wish all of this crazy shit would stop--but then--as whacked as the real world often is these days----I guess that insanity has to spill over to this site as well.

[darkeyes]

I've been posting but I didn't post in this thread until now. I don't attack people or do any of the things that you're claiming. I don't care if you put me on your ignore list.
:yikes2:

[void()]

There is medicine, Voidie.. much like the medicine which prolongs life but cannot quite save it... and some, if prescribed properly can prolong life of a better quality longer and better than others...:)

If you say so.

[littlerayofsunshine]

:yikes2:

Guess someone has drank their own kool-aid possibly?


You need to get over your martyr and persecution complex. .

[Gearbox]

I didn't inspire SJ and his clown... the cowboy did that all on his lonesome.. don't switch responsibility on to me for him getting a dose of medicine he wont like..

...and neither did I say I would hound the cowboy... I said he would find me standing up to him whenever he spread his poison and any others that did so.... I would be in his way... that is a far cry from saying I would hound him... he plays nice.. Fran plays nice.. not the same thing at all, Gear.. personally I find standing up to arrogant bullies quite positive, and wish I did have this wondrous ability to inspire others so to do.. there is an old saying to "set a thief to catch a thief..". in matters such as this I don't always accept that adage and did not like SJ and his clown.. I'm not sure I agree that he broke the rules of the site, but I accept that ur argument in respect of that does have some real merit.. but I wish u would recognise that the cowboy certainly did...often and for months... and that, Gear, is not helping...

I hate nastiness as much as any other and would have it plucked out.. and while I agree that we should not care who is nasty but have them dealt with whoever they are, I do wish you would take note of your own advice...
I'm definately not protecting, exscusing or in any way sticking up for Drugstore, even though that's what my post reads like.LOL. Nope! It's the site I'm concerned about. Somehow SJMurph thought it was ok to break a rule here about flaming the person, and your war cry was one of the few things that I could connect it with. But that's just a probability, a higher one is that he was a troll anyway.
I believe in standing up to bullies, even if they attack our 'not so much on our Xmas card list' 'friends'. Because if you support it from one, you support it from all. I get myself in the crap due to that, but can't help it.
If drugstore or anybody else made this thread I'd be complaining. I'd be just as worried about the sites crazyometer ringing 14 dec no matter who did it.
Hopefully it will die down to a steady 5dec ('normal' crazy pitch for here) in a while.:)

think you need to be fair about this. Unless Fran held down each of SJ's fingers as he typed, she is not responsible for his rants.
It is all about personal responsibility. SJ made the choice to post. HE made the thought process that came up with those vile statements. HIS fingers typed out the words. HE is solely responsible.
The world would be a much better place if more people believed in personal responsibility and acted that way.
Yes that's what I said, that he is responsible for what he wrote. Whether he was influenced/inspired or not is another matter. From where I was reading, it seemed as if he got the idea that it was ok to attack Drugstore in particular, and that he'd have no/little complaint about it.
It doesn't take much to prevoke some people.

[darkeyes]

Wot is normal on this site, Gear babes? Summat no 1 can say... quieter time is needed ok, methinks.. but that isn't normal either.. *laffs*