My Straight best friend

[NeilThomas]

So after a night out, me and a friend went back to a hotel where I touched his feet and legs and he didn't flinch. I continued to massage his feet and thighs. Began to caress his let's and run my fingers over his knees. I got to his naked crouch and fondled his ball sack. Before I knew it, I was stroking his cock. Still he hadn't said anything nor did he move away. I began to feel pre cum and used it to lubricate as I continued to stoke him. I licked my hand and made him very wet. He started to moan, all the standard signs that he's enjoying it. I couldn't resist any longer and took him in my mouth. Deep throated him a lot for a long time. 30+ minutes. I loved it, he certainly enjoyed it. His cock now dripping in my saliva, I stroke him some more. As he makes the obvious grunt that he's about to cum, I put him back in my mouth and take him whole one last time as he throbs down my throat warm cum. Whilst he was going soft, I carry on sucking and licking his cock.

We agreed we'd never speak of it (obviously RE friends and family, here wasn't in the rules). He knows I'm bisexual and have been with guys before. He though is very straight. Like he's never shown interest in guys before and we've has the curious conversation and experimental one too. Never thought I'd be telling this story about him. He has the highest sex drive of anyone I know...

i havent seen seen or spoken to him since. I worry our friendship maybe ruined.

Your thoughts, similar experiences and advice would be very helpful and could be reassuring.

[sysper]

doesn't sound like he's str8 or bi, sounds like he's just horny lol.........but seriously i don't have any experiance with anything like this so i can only give my opinion. i think it's gonna take sometime for ur friend to make sense of this experiance. maybe he has considered trying this, maybe he even is bi. but it sounds like the idea of actually being with a guy for real is a new idea for him. it's gonna take sometime for all of this to sink in. eventually u2 will be hanging out again. u2 should bring this subject up when the time is right. might even lead to more fun, but then again it might not. but if ur friendship is to survive & be healthy u gotta bring this up & talk it out. goodluck & keep us posted!

[bikurinpa]

I am sure there is a lot of regular friends who would love to experiment with another man, but they are same as me, do not know how to figure or find out the desires of each other. I got a few regular friends i wish it could happen with, but I do not know how to drop clues or figure them out safely without being too obvious. Some people are just luckier then others in finding them out easily.


So after a night out, me and a friend went back to a hotel where I touched his feet and legs and he didn't flinch. I continued to massage his feet and thighs. Began to caress his let's and run my fingers over his knees. I got to his naked crouch and fondled his ball sack. Before I knew it, I was stroking his cock. Still he hadn't said anything nor did he move away. I began to feel pre cum and used it to lubricate as I continued to stoke him. I licked my hand and made him very wet. He started to moan, all the standard signs that he's enjoying it. I couldn't resist any longer and took him in my mouth. Deep throated him a lot for a long time. 30+ minutes. I loved it, he certainly enjoyed it. His cock now dripping in my saliva, I stroke him some more. As he makes the obvious grunt that he's about to cum, I put him back in my mouth and take him whole one last time as he throbs down my throat warm cum. Whilst he was going soft, I carry on sucking and licking his cock.

We agreed we'd never speak of it (obviously RE friends and family, here wasn't in the rules). He knows I'm bisexual and have been with guys before. He though is very straight. Like he's never shown interest in guys before and we've has the curious conversation and experimental one too. Never thought I'd be telling this story about him. He has the highest sex drive of anyone I know...

i havent seen seen or spoken to him since. I worry our friendship maybe ruined.

Your thoughts, similar experiences and advice would be very helpful and could be reassuring.

[cuttin2dachase]

I have many str8 friends, none of whom I'd approach about sex or come out to. My bi self is an excitingly secret side of me that I keep separated from my outwardly str8 side. I only reveal my bi self to guys whom I know are also bi (or gay). They are the only men with whom I feel comfortable enough to reveal my secret side because they are revealing the same truth to me. That being said, I suppose there are one or two of my str8 friends that I would go to bed with if they came out to me or initiated mm play.

[Cum1st]

I find it worthy of note that he didn't get uncomfortable right after he finished.

I gather his friendship is more important to you than his cock.

I suggest going with the real you. Don't let a friend slip away over a lack of communication. He can't run away from the fact that he crossed an imaginary line. Without your assurance it may be on his mind that he may be 'found out'. Who knows what he's thinking, but from your description he's probably not afraid of you. You may never see his loins again.

I've made friends since moving out here in PA, but neither I or they have made any indications that MM sex was OK. If I am going to have sex with a man, we're going to know and trust each other. The days of NSA sex are long over for me. I've waited a long time, and the right situation hasn't come along.

It seems like the ball is in your court.

[void()]

I find it worthy of note that he didn't get uncomfortable right after he finished.

I gather his friendship is more important to you than his cock.

I suggest going with the real you. Don't let a friend slip away over a lack of communication. He can't run away from the fact that he crossed an imaginary line. Without your assurance it may be on his mind that he may be 'found out'. Who knows what he's thinking, but from your description he's probably not afraid of you. You may never see his loins again.

I've made friends since moving out here in PA, but neither I or they have made any indications that MM sex was OK. If I am going to have sex with a man, we're going to know and trust each other. The days of NSA sex are long over for me. I've waited a long time, and the right situation hasn't come along.

It seems like the ball is in your court.

Bumping this response as to me it is well worded & says all I could say. I agree that it seems you got the ball.
You may want to consider arranging a lunch, or some other form of non-confronting get together with him. Then,
you could broach this, if he seemed amicable then, you could both discuss it. Keep the conversation light and
general so you both retain an air of dignity, care.

"Remember the night we did something?"

"Okay? What about it?"

"That's just it, what about it? Care to cue me in?"

Something akin to that would help open conversation, while letting him be in control.

I'm suggesting you give the ball back to him, sounds like you're keen enough on how you feel. You
want to know how he feels. So you ask but do not force by keeping the ball for yourself.

Hope this is helpful.

[NeilThomas]

Thank you for your replies. Very helpful.
He hasn't been in touch since still, well once to say merry Christmas in a whatsapp group but nothing individual. We have a sporting event planned this coming January with a night in a hotel booked. Pre planned way before the events of the 14th December. I do not know right now what will happen.
will he still wanna go?
Will there be a repeat of that night? I'd like that to happen.
Could we take it a bit further? Should I plan and pack for that?

Retorical questions albeit opinions welcome.
Thanks again.

[pole_smoker]

Your "friend" is not heterosexual. He's either bisexual or gay but closeted, or in denial about it. No hetero guy even when drunk lets another guy suck his cock.

Yes your friendship if there ever was one, is probably ruined. But you made the choice to have sex with him while he was drunk. :rolleyes:

[cuttin2dachase]

I tend to think that if he's agreed to the sports outing after all that's happened before, he may secretly hope it will happen again. It sounds like he is shy and a bit unsure of his sexuality or about admitting that he has those same desires. I would call him before the outing and lay your cards on the table or do it over a drink when you are checked into your hotel. If he is not a no-show, that is a great sign. Get it all out in the open from the get-go so it won't be the 3 ton elephant in the room the whole weekend. Tell him your honest feelings about enjoying the previous fun you had and just flat out ask him if he wants more too. If he says he's not interested, just tell him will not affect the rest of the weekend and you'll both still have fun just being pals. I have a suspicion he might even surprise you by telling you he wants it again :)

[Bimmga]

I do not agree with the post that your friend is a closeted gay or bisexual man. He's straight and a lot of straight men will have the occasional dalliance with a man. It is, after all one of the top five male sexual fantasies. The thinking that having homoerotic contact means that one is gay is so 1950s thinking and has never been true.

Why leave this hanging out in the wind. Call your friend and invite him for a drink or something and find out exactly how he feels about the experience. He may surprise you by telling you he enjoyed it. If not, you can assure him that you don't expect it to happen again.

[pole_smoker]

That guy is bi or gay but closeted. No this is not 1950s thinking LMAO! :rolleyes: No person that's actually heterosexual goes out and while drunk or sober has sex with someone of the same gender, and they do not fantasize about having sex with the same gender/sex if they're straight/hetero, and all of this is true and always has been.

But a lot of queens need the pipe dream fantasy that they are having sex with a hetero/straight guy. LMAO :rolleyes: :smilies15


I do not agree with the post that your friend is a closeted gay or bisexual man. He's straight and a lot of straight men will have the occasional dalliance with a man. It is, after all one of the top five male sexual fantasies. The thinking that having homoerotic contact means that one is gay is so 1950s thinking and has never been true.

Why leave this hanging out in the wind. Call your friend and invite him for a drink or something and find out exactly how he feels about the experience. He may surprise you by telling you he enjoyed it. If not, you can assure him that you don't expect it to happen again.

[loves oral]

Suggest getting together for dinner or a drink to plan for the coming event.
You should be able to tell if he's comfortable from his answer or at dinner.

[Bimmga]

I thought you were gone.... Well anyway your insistence that the man is gay just because he got a blowjob from a man only proves that you are sexually and emotionally immature. And,yes, your thinking is exactly the way people were thinking in 1950: one homosexual experience means that you must be completely, irreversible homosexual.

[pole_smoker]

I thought you were gone.... Well anyway your insistence that the man is gay just because he got a blowjob from a man only proves that you are sexually and emotionally immature. And,yes, your thinking is exactly the way people were thinking in 1950: one homosexual experience means that you must be completely, irreversible homosexual.

I wrote about how this guy is either bi, or he's gay since those are the only type of men who get sucked off by other men, as men who are actually hetero/straight do not do this with other men or fantasize about it. :rolleyes:

[NjbiGuy01]

I thought you were gone.... Well anyway your insistence that the man is gay just because he got a blowjob from a man only proves that you are sexually and emotionally immature. And,yes, your thinking is exactly the way people were thinking in 1950: one homosexual experience means that you must be completely, irreversible homosexual.

NO, we all WISH he were gone. He's a fucking "know-it-all holier than thou" douche nozzle who only thinks he knows everything about everyone and he's simply perfect. Anytime you question him or give him back shit, you are a "diseased troll homophobe who's stalking him" (and anything else he can throw at you and anyone else). Same post no matter who he's writing about. It's hard not to look like a stalker he's here so much and such an opinionated know-it-all about everything. We're all just Bozo's on his bus. Hey asshole: It's not your website even though you act like it is...

He's a sociopath who truly needs therapy.

[pepperjack]

Hey, Njbi, given your other post on here today that the sites are for sale, isn't it obvious that his days here are finally numbered ? With all due respect, you've made it obvious you're articulate, intelligent but you've also made it obvious that he really pushes your buttons & you're feeding his frenzy ! With the exception of newcomers, we all know what he's about by now. Give us some credit for our perception. And take a " chill pill " 'cause it looks like better days are on the horizon. ;)

[sysper]

Thank you for your replies. Very helpful.
He hasn't been in touch since still, well once to say merry Christmas in a whatsapp group but nothing individual. We have a sporting event planned this coming January with a night in a hotel booked. Pre planned way before the events of the 14th December. I do not know right now what will happen.
will he still wanna go?
Will there be a repeat of that night? I'd like that to happen.
Could we take it a bit further? Should I plan and pack for that?

Retorical questions albeit opinions welcome.
Thanks again.
i think it would be better to bring the subject up before the trip, it might be pretty tense otherwise. be a friend to him 1st, see how far he wants to go with u if at all. then be a sex partner. be open to more fun but don't expect it from him. he might not want anything more to do with u sexually u gotta respect that if he is ur friend. but if that nite has made him curious to try more make sure he feels comfortable with u & be considerate of his feelings. this is something new for him he's gotta take it 1 step at a time.

[void()]

NjbiGuy01,

You know how you wake up from one of those lucidly erotic dreams of a morning, find you may have spilled? It is kind of rough pondering such a waste, huh? Find I clean up and go on about the day feeling all nice, pleasant. Why cry over spilled milk, cum? Life is like that. Everyone is bound to spill a little now and then. No need to bother getting stressed out about it. It happens. :) Sometimes it is nice to point to the spill, let others know of a wet floor to avoid slipping. Other times, everyone else can see the mess. If you are lucky, somebody may help cleaning up. Ultimately though, we all learn to clean up our own messes. It happens. :) Again, nothing to be stressed over. What will be, will be.

Excuse me, got hungry now. You hush though, NjbiGuy01. ;)

[biguy1940]

you obviously don't have a clue about straight guys (but then how would you?)...if it weren't for straight guys there would be no need for glory holes...just because you let someone suck your dick doesn't make one gay, or bi or anything else just like eating tacos doesn't make you mexican...this is just another one of your "attacks" on anyone that you think you can get away with screwing with... in other words YOU'RE STILL A TROLL...
Your "friend" is not heterosexual. He's either bisexual or gay but closeted, or in denial about it. No hetero guy even when drunk lets another guy suck his cock.

Yes your friendship if there ever was one, is probably ruined. But you made the choice to have sex with him while he was drunk. :rolleyes:

[pepperjack]

you obviously don't have a clue about straight guys (but then how would you?)...if it weren't for straight guys there would be no need for glory holes...just because you let someone suck your dick doesn't make one gay, or bi or anything else just like eating tacos doesn't make you mexican...this is just another one of your "attacks" on anyone that you think you can get away with screwing with... in other words YOU'RE STILL A TROLL...

His twisted logic is empirical evidence of why he has so many degrees. :rolleyes:

[The Galion]

Neil, a buck says he'll be there since he's your friend. He knows you're bi.
I have a friend, and he and his wife know I'm bi. When he can wrap his head around it (with a few whiskeys), I get to suck him.
Your friend was nude and let you play. How was it that he was nude in front of you?




Whether you get to suck him off is up to him. Pack heavy yet think light. Ugh, this site hates my antique net browser. Keep us updated will you?

[void()]

His twisted logic is empirical evidence of why he has so many degrees. :rolleyes:

* falls from ceiling & lands with a thud followed by chuckles, gets up with a smile & nodding he's alright *

Leave it to The Big Cheese to spoil a perfectly good surrealist day. * grinning & chuckling *
Though, when you're right, you're right. :)

[void()]

Neil, a buck says he'll be there since he's your friend. He knows you're bi.
I have a friend, and he and his wife know I'm bi. When he can wrap his head around it (with a few whiskeys), I get to suck him.
Your friend was nude and let you play. How was it that he was nude in front of you?

Whether you get to suck him off is up to him. Pack heavy yet think light. Ugh, this site hates my antique net browser. Keep us updated will you?

You tune into my train of thought. Had a life long friend who on
learning I'm bi, took to the standard razzing. Suited him fine though.
In his words he was happy I come to visit him and his wife on weekends,
he got "two bitches" in his house then.

He and I never did anything at all sexually. We were and remained
friends. Me and his wife never did anything at all sexually, we flirted
like mad in front of him. We had to razz back lest he think we didn't
care. :)

Oddly, she knew within five minutes of meeting me, "he's different". She
admitted to suspecting gay, yet waited to figure it out. He knew me all
that time, I dropped all kinds of hints, he never picked it up. Weird
how people are and can be.

[NeilThomas]

So here we are at the sporting event, the world darts championships in London, England. We are back in the hotel. Three of us. Myself my straight friend and his even more straighter friend.
We are each in individual beds.

i made it clear to my friend earlier how I felt and that for me it was a great experience. He confirmed that it was the best blow job he ever had. And I told him there is more where it came from.

Not 100% sure that separate beds is a decision he made because of the third person or because of what happened last time. What I do know is that despite it being the best blowjob he's ever had, he's happy to deprive himself of another; at least for tonight in company.

Thoughts.

[sysper]

my guess is having someone else in the room who has no idea would influence ur friend getting separate beds. i would definately make that decision too. the fact he admitted it was the best bj he ever had means the pleasure was greater than any problems he might have with same sex activity. almost like he's open to another experiance under the right circumstances. don't push him, when the time is right it will happen. it might still take him sometime for him to accept all of this. that's my advise.

[void()]

my guess is having someone else in the room who has no idea would influence ur friend getting separate beds. i would definately make that decision too. the fact he admitted it was the best bj he ever had means the pleasure was greater than any problems he might have with same sex activity. almost like he's open to another experiance under the right circumstances. don't push him, when the time is right it will happen. it might still take him sometime for him to accept all of this. that's my advise.

* cut, copy, paste +1 * Yes, figure he was merely pulling the dodge for the sake of the third. Why stir drama without need. He's hoping you understand. Broach him later when no other company is around. May find an inferno waiting.

As to his dodging, keep in mind it's not him, rather it's society. He is not able or willing to break the mold. Go gently and I think you two will find some ground together. Revel in those fleeting moments, be strong and stone faced when they pass, let society see not. He may eventually find courage to not care what anyone else thinks. In the interim be his anchor.

[pole_smoker]

you obviously don't have a clue about straight guys (but then how would you?)...if it weren't for straight guys there would be no need for glory holes...just because you let someone suck your dick doesn't make one gay, or bi or anything else just like eating tacos doesn't make you mexican...this is just another one of your "attacks" on anyone that you think you can get away with screwing with... in other words YOU'RE STILL A TROLL... LMAO!!!!! You don't know jack shit about human sexuality, and you're the real troll. If a guy is really hetero/straight he's not going to use a glory hole where a man is sucking off other men through it, get sucked off by a guy, or even have sex with a man as there would be no point as no heterosexual is sexually attracted to the same gender. It doesn't matter if he's horny, drunk, or high on drugs, etc. But you're one of those silly queens that needs the fantasy that you're having sex with a real hetero/straight guy...here's a pic of you. LOL http://social.mysecretchoice.com/ow_userfiles/plugins/photo/photo_1957_56632c19677d0.jpg